LianLi software or BIOS?

[Zeebedy]

Hey,

Just fired up WarDogs there after a fresh install, during the loading and whatnot the CPU temps went a bit mental, around mid high 80's under max load.

I have the LianLi HyrdoShift 360mm AIO.. now do I use the LianLi software to adjust the fan pump profile or should it be configured in the BIOS?



Thanks.

 

[Gray2233]

Was this during shader comp?

Your CPU hitting the 80's with all cores running at 100% for a few minutes in that scenario isn't something I'd be concerned about.

 

[Steampunk]

Hey,

Just fired up WarDogs there after a fresh install, during the loading and whatnot the CPU temps went a bit mental, around mid high 80's under max load.

I have the LianLi HyrdoShift 360mm AIO.. now do I use the LianLi software to adjust the fan pump profile or should it be configured in the BIOS?



Thanks.

FanControl. The answer is always FanControl.

 

[tamzzy]

Personally, bios for me. Never a fan (haha pun) of random software taking up CPU cycles...

 

[Zeebedy]

Was this during shader comp?

Your CPU hitting the 80's with all cores running at 100% for a few minutes in that scenario isn't something I'd be concerned about.

Yes it was during this.

FanControl. The answer is always FanControl.

Might have a look at this.

Personally, bios for me. Never a fan (haha pun) of random software taking up CPU cycles...

Yeah, not 100% sure how I feel about software..

 

[mattyfez]

Personally, bios for me. Never a fan (haha pun) of random software taking up CPU cycles...

Fan control is really light weight and really powerful..

 

[tamzzy]

Yeah, not 100% sure how I feel about software..

if you're tinkering away, it may be more convenient to use software to find the best temp/fan rpm curve, then lock those numbers into bios once you're happy and then delete the prog

Fan control is really light weight and really powerful..

may well be the case, but once the temp/rpm curve is locked in, there's not really any need to tinker/load up "yet" another program when everything can be set in bios.
i know it sounds like i'm moving the goalposts here, but i can't see what an additional program can improve on what i can already do in bios

 

[Gray2233]

i know it sounds like i'm moving the goalposts here, but i can't see what an additional program can improve on what i can already do in bios

If it's possible via the bios it's better to do it via bios, at least with adjustable ones such as on your motherboard -- don't run out and start flashing your GPU's left and right.

Getting a good curve for fans, overclocking etc, all are technically doable via software in your o/s but you get a better and cleaner result with the bios.

No harm in finding the best settings with software as mentioned and then transferring over.

The only thing I run full time in terms of fan control/undervolting/oc'ing etc is MSI Afterburner/rivatuner for the GPU.

 

[Steampunk]

if you're tinkering away, it may be more convenient to use software to find the best temp/fan rpm curve, then lock those numbers into bios once you're happy and then delete the prog


may well be the case, but once the temp/rpm curve is locked in, there's not really any need to tinker/load up "yet" another program when everything can be set in bios.
i know it sounds like i'm moving the goalposts here, but i can't see what an additional program can improve on what i can already do in bios

You can make all sorts of different curves, based on different things ie triggers, time averages, linear, flat, etc. Your BIOS can't see your graphics card or drive temps, where FanControl can do things like adjust your curves based on whichever component is the hottest at that time, and you can easily adjust them while your system is running until you get what you want, and have things like different hysteresis on the way up and down, different/same curves for different fans, etc. You can even have it run as a service in the background just like the software from the motherboard manufacturer does.

It does everything the BIOS fan control does, and a lot more, and it does it all better.

 

[Zeebedy]

You can make all sorts of different curves, based on different things ie triggers, time averages, linear, flat, etc. Your BIOS can't see your graphics card or drive temps, where FanControl can do things like adjust your curves based on whichever component is the hottest at that time, and you can easily adjust them while your system is running until you get what you want, and have things like different hysteresis on the way up and down, different/same curves for different fans, etc. You can even have it run as a service in the background just like the software from the motherboard manufacturer does.

It does everything the BIOS fan control does, and a lot more, and it does it all better.

gonna give this a go i think..

 

[Gray2233]

You can make all sorts of different curves, based on different things ie triggers, time averages, linear, flat, etc. Your BIOS can't see your graphics card or drive temps, where FanControl can do things like adjust your curves based on whichever component is the hottest at that time, and you can easily adjust them while your system is running until you get what you want, and have things like different hysteresis on the way up and down, different/same curves for different fans, etc. You can even have it run as a service in the background just like the software from the motherboard manufacturer does.

It does everything the BIOS fan control does, and a lot more, and it does it all better.

Why does it need to see your GPU or drive temps? You're running a home PC not a nuclear reactor, if everything else is sufficiently cooled your drives will be fine.

Can it undervolt your GPU? If not you'll still need either a competent vendor suit (lol) or to use a third party application such as Afterburner. What happens if you have some sort of software conflict or error? They're far more common than anything bios related for obvious reasons.

Having a ton of options is great if they're necessary, but personally speaking as long as my temps are under control and I'm happy with how much noise everything makes I do not care. There's such a thing as overcomplicating a problem, and when it comes to PC consumer cooling it's usually one that barely exists to begin with.

If you enjoy fiddling around that's grand, it isn't for me personally.

I certainly wouldn't faff about because my CPU and cooling went a bit nuts during a 2-5 minute shader comp situation in a game if that was my main usage, it's a lot of pointless time spent. You'll only run shader comp to that extent at first launch or with any sort of updates on your end, and if a game is doing it frequently you're better off not playing it.

 

[Steampunk]

Why does it need to see your GPU or drive temps? You're running a home PC not a nuclear reactor, if everything else is sufficiently cooled your drives will be fine.

Because if my drives or GPU are working hard and the CPU isn't, the case fans spin up based on those items being hotter, and the can keep them both better cooled passively so the GPU fans don't need to spin up for longer. The heat spilled into the case from those items gets expelled before the case (and other components) heat up unnecessarily. I have a sound deadend case, so getting hot air out is important.

Can it undervolt your GPU? If not you'll still need either a competent vendor suit (lol) or to use a third party application such as Afterburner. What happens if you have some sort of software conflict or error? They're far more common than anything bios related for obvious reasons.

I don't need a third party app to undervolt my GPU. It's build into the AMD software. Ironic that you don't like third party software when it's FanControl, but it's fine when it's Afterburner which historically has caused loads of problems over the years.

Having a ton of options is great if they're necessary, but personally speaking as long as my temps are under control and I'm happy with how much noise everything makes I do not care. There's such a thing as overcomplicating a problem, and when it comes to PC consumer cooling it's usually one that barely exists to begin with.

If you enjoy fiddling around that's grand, it isn't for me personally.

I certainly wouldn't faff about because my CPU and cooling went a bit nuts during a 2-5 minute shader comp situation in a game if that was my main usage, it's a lot of pointless time spent. You'll only run shader comp to that extent at first launch or with any sort of updates on your end, and if a game is doing it frequently you're better off not playing it.

It's actually far easier to set up Fancontrol, get it where you want it (without rebooting into the BIOS each time you want to make a change) and then forget about it. You get more options with better results. Fancontrol lets me run the fans quieter when it's cool, and faster when it's hot just based on being able to cool the things that need cooling, not just what the BIOS can see.

You don't have to use it, but it is a really useful bit of software that works well. I don't really understand why you're hating on it when it seems you've never even tried it. I just answered the question the OP asked instead of telling him to forget about what he wanted to do.

 

[mattyfez]

I just run it on start so once it's set up you don't need to open the app or anything.

It really helped me as my case fans were resonating with the case at specific rpms, so I was able to precisely tune that out, and some more tweaking generally.