linux wireless problem

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hi all
i posted this here because i think the problem is i dont know how to use linux.
i have bought my daughter a hp mini note pc and a tenda w54a wireless ap to plug into my wired router to send out the wireless signal. the hp detects and connects to the tenda but i still cant connect to the internet. if it was windows i think i could sort it but the instructions for the tenda are not for linux so i cant find the settings i need to change etc.
i think i may need to get someone to set it up although i can normally do these things myself.

is there a simple setup procedure or is it a job for someone up on linux?
thanks
ashley
 
thanks for your reply.
i have no idea because i cant login to the wireless ap to see the settings.
i think its a problem with the linux pc as i can use my mobile phone to connect to the wireless network and access the internet.
im off out now so i will have another go when i get home later.
thanks ashley
 
ok ive had another go but still no luck, ill try and explain what ive done and maybe someone will see whats wrong.

on the netbbok i click on "configure nework cards"
i get 2 options
network setup options
1 user controlled with network manager
2 traditional method with ifup

i dont know the difference and they both seem the same to me.

so i select option 1 and then click to edit the network card

there are 3 options there
1 none address setup
2 automaticaddress setup (via dhcp)
3 static address setup

ive tried them all but i think its option 3 i need so i can set the ip address.
im not sure what address to put but have tried a few i.e. 192.168.0.3 or 192.168.1.3.
subnet mask 255.255.255.0

how do i know what ip address to give it?
there are 3 tabs to click below this
1 hostname and name server
2 routing
3 advanced

do i have to click routing and put something into default gateway?
do i tick "enable ip forwarding" ?

in the instructions it says to open ie and put 192.168.0.254 in the address bar to access the configuration interface but this dosent work.

i think this is where the problem is, on the taskbar it says "connected to tundra 100%" but still cant open any web pages

please help.
ashley
 
You will be most likely using option number 2 (DHCP) as this configures your DNS servers automatically. What it seems like is happening that if you can connect to the router but not access the internet then your DNS servers are not being resolved. Keep trying but using the DHCP option. I wish I could help you more but its very difficult without seeing seeing the full situation.
 
A good Wireless AP should NOT have instructions for a specific OS.

It should NOT require you to configure it on your computer from a CD or something like that.

Should be configured via a CLI or the browser.




If you can, configure it through a browser, do not install anything for it on any computers. If this isn't possible, get a refund.
 
thanks

ive tried a few things which might help
i have pluged the mini pc straight into my 5 port wired modem router, it connects to it but i still canot acces web pages,
then i connected to a neighbours unprotected wireless network and i was able to access the web.

so im thinking this is a problem with my modem router.

i have a pc (this one) and a ps3 connected to it with no problems.

i can configure my router using ie but am not sure what i need to do to fix this problem, is it a firewall problem do you think?

thanks for your help
ashley
 
Try putting the opendns servers in your resolv.conf (or your ISP DNS IP's if you know them), you will find this in /etc/resolv.conf then try connecting using DHCP. Sounds like you're connecting, just you have no name look ups.

If you want to use a static ip you need to connect to the router and see what range it can allocate ip's in. Can you at least ping the router address when you are connected? This should be easy enough to resolve.

P.s. First lets get it working with it physically plugged into the router then can worry about wireless once we know that works for sure.
 
skiba

sorry but i dont really understand how to do that, im a bit thick when it comes to networks etc. just very basic stuff.

i could do the ping thing but dont know how to in linux, is there a dos thingy anywhere?
 
Yes, you need to find the 'terminal' application.

First try pinging the router, probably 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1. If that works then try pinging www.google.com. If that doesn't work because it can't resolve it try typing 'nslookup 66.249.91.103'. If that returns something about google then it's simply a DNS issue.
 
pinged router, fine
pinged google, fine

then done nslookup anyway and this is what came up....

server: 192.168.1.1
address: 192.168.1.1#53

non authoritative answer :
103.91.249.66 in-addr.arpa name = ik-in-f103.google.com
authritative answers can be found from:

by the way, when i ping it just keeps doing it again and again, i have to close it and restart the app, is that right?

thanks ashley
 
If you can ping google just fine what happens when you try to browse to it in the browser then? Seems strange as the network side of things appears fine. What browser is it? Can you try an alternative one? Can you get to the router login page using 192.168.1.1 ?

edit: and yes, linux will continually ping until you press Control-C to break it or use a flag to specify how many pings it should send.
 
when i try to connect to google.com it just does nothing for a few minuits the says
"the connection has timed out
the server at www.google.com is taking too long to respond"
yes i can access the router login page, even with it going through the ap.
im using firefox
not sure about trying another one, and if that was the problem then why would it work through my neighbours network?

thanks for this skiba, i think we are getting there
 
Im not sure if it might be some setting in the browser messing it up? What OS are you running on this laptop?
I'm still thinking it's a DNS issue, try upgrading to Firefox 3. Do you have any internet apps you can test with like MSN or Skype for example?
 
its suse linux
with it connected via my neighbours network i can connect to GAIM although once it is connected and logged in it just disappears,
on my network nothing happens when i try to connect.

i can still ping google
i can connect to the internet through my wireless using my mobile phone.

could there be a setting on my router that needs changing?

ihave downloaded ff3 on my pc and transfered it to the mini pc with a memory card, i cant work out how to install it though.
 
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no i havent, i could borrow my mates laptop tommorow and try that.
i havent tried connecting my ps3 wirelessly yet, is it worth trying that?.
it connects ok wired so i think it will work ok as i dont think the wireless is the problem.

this is doing my head in.
cheap hp mini on a well know auction site soon....:mad:

edit. i have tried my ps3 through wireless and it works fine..
 
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it went to google page !!!!!
but thats as far as it would go, search didnt work neither did any links on that page.

whats up with it?
 
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