Lizard squad -why do they do it?

JonJ678 said:
I think it's pretty poor that a DDOS attack is effective on a service as extensively funded as MS & Sony's gaming networks.

Perhaps that was the motivation - to highlight to the world that both groups are too cheap to build a server farm properly.
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That's kinda the excuse they used when they hit my company several months ago. Problem is, the sheer amount of traffic they were throwing at us was some orders of magnitude higher than anything we would receive normally and companies aren't going to keep that amount of bandwidth in reserve just to deal with a few attention seeking script kiddies for a couple of days.
 
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Diddums said:
This is what I thought at first too, but after speaking to various people who know more about this than I do about... well, anything, it would appear that this is in fact extremely hard to counter. One said it'd take roughly ten times the computing power of the attacking botnet to defend against it.

No idea personally.
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All a DDOS does is saturate a server with requests for information until the server chokes and goes down.

Even when Digg was popular there was the "Digg effect". Someones website would get linked on digg and the sheer number of users visiting the site used up the bandwidth allocation, or brought the server down. Same thing happens with the "Reddit hug of death".

Now imagine a 60,000 strong bot net saying to Sony or Microsoft servers "give me information" however many times a second and you have complete saturation of bandwidth and servers start choking under request volume.
 
I'm surprised no one offers a on demand service."We notice you're under attack would you like to mitigate it for £1000? Click yes to continue"

Boot up the servers and throw the new IP into the load balancers.
 
Mynight said:
I'm surprised no one offers a on demand service."We notice you're under attack would you like to mitigate it for £1000? Click yes to continue"

Boot up the servers and throw the new IP into the load balancers.
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4Chan took to using Cloudflare when it's user base rocketed and they needed infrastructure and they also protect against DDOS.

In February of 2014 CloudFlare mitigated the largest ever recorded DDoS attack which peaked at 400 Gbit/s. [15]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CloudFlare
 
I use cloudflare myself it works well but I'm not entirely sure how it works haha. It seems to be multiple cached copies across different locations and then them acting as a load balancer.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem much use for databases or most likely it's my inexperience and lacking the ability.
 
What ever happened to those Lulzsec guys in the end? They all got caught then there was nothing else in the news about it after that. Can't even see anything on wikipedia on whether they ended up in prison.
 
Diddums said:
So can't PSN and XBL use cloudflare or am I missing something?
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They have their own load balancing. The problem is the sheer size of the botnet and the volume of data it was requesting and bandwidth it was using, not even their load balancing could protect against it. And this is Microsoft and Sony we're talking about. Cloudflare would probably have struggled as well.

Here's a blog post by cloudflare on DNS amplification attacks

http://blog.cloudflare.com/deep-inside-a-dns-amplification-ddos-attack/
 
Mynight said:
I'm surprised no one offers a on demand service."We notice you're under attack would you like to mitigate it for £1000? Click yes to continue"

Boot up the servers and throw the new IP into the load balancers.
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There are services that will protect you however caching a website is different to real time low latency gaming traffic.
 
JonJ678 said:
I think it's pretty poor that a DDOS attack is effective on a service as extensively funded as MS & Sony's gaming networks.

Perhaps that was the motivation - to highlight to the world that both groups are too cheap to build a server farm properly.
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kinda like saying it's pretty poor a protest can affect a city as well funded as London.
 
Minstadave said:
There are services that will protect you however caching a website is different to real time low latency gaming traffic.
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True. However in the case of pc (I don't know about Xbox/ps) it was the battlelog server that was the target of the attack. Whilst the gaming servers were still running happily they were not connectable due to the battlelog server being down. As far as I can work out all the battlelog server does is list servers and collate stats. I would have thought in this scenario caching could be an option.

Once the attack ceases then all logs could be updated to main server again.
 
DJMK4 said:
Really annoys me when the media use the word hacking


This is not hacking!!!

Its also quite frequent these things happen, I see ddos attacks quite a lot although sometimes there saturate 9mbps, sometimes 20mbps and do absolutely nothing, sometimes 220mbps +

Motives were probably nothing else that they just wanted to cause a little disruption on Xmas day, and have the news talk about it
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What do you expect from the tabloids? :p
But Yeah just script kiddies, I bet Lizard Squad couldn't even hack into their Mother's AOL account because that requires skill and intelligence.
 
If he's guilty he better start squealing or his life is over. The US of A will want to make an example of him, and he'll be fighting extradition for years.
What an idiot.
 
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