LOL it's always america's fault

Kosovo was a region which always had a majority albanian population, historically it's been like that. It wasn't an issue previously because it wasn't part of serbia but part of yugoslavia which had a hugely diverse ethnic make up. When yugoslavia broke up and kosovo was bundled with serbia it became an issue.

Kosovo has always been part of Serbia though. It only became an issue when muslim militias started a civil war there
 
What is this Kosovo stuff all about?

I was in London today and about 10 Mercades and BMWs were driving around beeping with Kosovo flags and British flags hanging out their windows. Was very odd.
 
Kosovo has always been part of Serbia though. It only became an issue when muslim militias started a civil war there

I'm pretty sure it's only been part of Serbia since 1912. International borders in the Balkan regions have historically changed so much so I doubt the fact that its been Serbian for the past 100 years is a particularly valid argument.
 
What is this Kosovo stuff all about?

I was in London today and about 10 Mercades and BMWs were driving around beeping with Kosovo flags and British flags hanging out their windows. Was very odd.


They've just unilaterally declared independence from Serbia. UK along with most of the EU and the US will probably recognise Kosovo as a country tomorrow where as Russia and Serbia are pretty annoyed about the whole thing... Emergency UN security council session is on going at the moment. Russia wants the declaration annulled.
 
Apparently it's the UN's fault as well:


Hand grenades have been thrown at buildings of the European Union and United Nations in the Kosovo Serb stronghold city of Mitrovica.

Source.
 
EU/UN/US etc can't wash their hands of this, the country wouldn't have even considered this if WE (EU/UN/US) hadn't said we'd acknowledge the independence of the country.

So it is partly our country at fault.

What really scares me is the precedent this sets, any small section where a majority of people are the same race/religion wanting independence can get it and simply point towards Kosovo. Who knows which country will be next? UK split? or just parts of England?
 
EU/UN/US etc can't wash their hands of this, the country wouldn't have even considered this if WE (EU/UN/US) hadn't said we'd acknowledge the independence of the country.

So it is partly our country at fault.

What really scares me is the precedent this sets, any small section where a majority of people are the same race/religion wanting independence can get it and simply point towards Kosovo. Who knows which country will be next? UK split? or just parts of England?

As I pointed out earlier, it isn't just we feel like seperating - the serb tried what was basically ethnic cleansing in kosovo. Not like we've done that over here really. Also, the country is very young and had only been united for a century at most, thats a bit different from here where the country has been one entity for hundreds of years.
 
World piece is never going to happen in my eyes, people are always going to argue, its just natural.

I think its time people started coming to reality about the whole issue.
 
EU/UN/US etc can't wash their hands of this, the country wouldn't have even considered this if WE (EU/UN/US) hadn't said we'd acknowledge the independence of the country.

So it is partly our country at fault.

What really scares me is the precedent this sets, any small section where a majority of people are the same race/religion wanting independence can get it and simply point towards Kosovo. Who knows which country will be next? UK split? or just parts of England?

Nope if it wasn't for the EU/US/UN genocide would still be happening in these countries. Is that what you would prefer. Like we are sitting back watching it happen in Zimbabwe?
 
EU/UN/US etc can't wash their hands of this, the country wouldn't have even considered this if WE (EU/UN/US) hadn't said we'd acknowledge the independence of the country.

So it is partly our country at fault.

What really scares me is the precedent this sets, any small section where a majority of people are the same race/religion wanting independence can get it and simply point towards Kosovo. Who knows which country will be next? UK split? or just parts of England?

what you mean like scotland or wales?

The time has come unite my celtic friends. lol
 
What is this Kosovo stuff all about?

I was in London today and about 10 Mercades and BMWs were driving around beeping with Kosovo flags and British flags hanging out their windows. Was very odd.
EU/UN/US etc can't wash their hands of this, the country wouldn't have even considered this if WE (EU/UN/US) hadn't said we'd acknowledge the independence of the country.

So it is partly our country at fault.

What really scares me is the precedent this sets, any small section where a majority of people are the same race/religion wanting independence can get it and simply point towards Kosovo. Who knows which country will be next? UK split? or just parts of England?

Kosovo originally existed as an independent entity known as Dardania, more than a thousand years ago. Over the next millennium it was invaded and oppressed by various empires and foreign states, including the Bulgarians, Byzantines, and Ottomans. Ironically, Serbia and Montenegro were originally part of Dardania and later became independent states.

The return of Kosovo's independence is, therefore, a return to the historical status quo. This is not a case of a minority ethnic group immigrating to a foreign country, slowly building up their numbers and finally seceding from the state; it is a case of an ethnic group which has always existed in this area, who once possessed their own independent state, and have now regained their original status. A British parallel would be the declaration of full Scottish independence, and the successful secession of Scotland from the UK.

That's the short and sanitised version, excluding details of the Serbs' attempts at genocide and ethnic cleansing ("which may disturb some viewers.")
 
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Nope if it wasn't for the EU/US/UN genocide would still be happening in these countries. Is that what you would prefer. Like we are sitting back watching it happen in Zimbabwe?

Intervention by the EU/US/UN has nothing to do with this, I'm all for that but backing one faction against another and causing the split of a country is something entirely different. We're meant to be peacekeepers, not decide on which countries should and should not exist.

We empowered Kosovo by immediately saying "oh great idea, we'll recognise that" knowing full well it gave them a green light. Now we'll be propping up that country for years and no doubt there will be a need for peacekeepers for much, much longer than previously.

We might as well just move in, we can't pull out of the country now for decades.
 
I was in London today and about 10 Mercades and BMWs were driving around beeping with Kosovo flags and British flags hanging out their windows. Was very odd.

Presumably now they have their own country they'll be wanting to return? Or will they want to start a civil war here in time too?
 
I'm pretty sure it's only been part of Serbia since 1912. International borders in the Balkan regions have historically changed so much so I doubt the fact that its been Serbian for the past 100 years is a particularly valid argument.

It has been part of Serbia since medieval times until the Ottoman empire invaded and took over it. Guess the KLA have stayed true to their Ottoman past :(
 
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