London Bridge Incident

Vonhelmet · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:37

Dis86 said:
Well...ill expand since your thought process is obviously stymied. If you stop the first generation then there is no second. Ergo there wouldn't be these attacks.

The first generation have been here a while... that horse has long since bolted. And that's before we even consider whether stopping that horse is possible or sensible.

bobbyspangles · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:37

AFO? Ankle/foot orthosis or Association for Festival Organisers?

Nitefly · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:37

Kenai said:
In what manner? Many would say the laws are adequate, it's the ability and resources to apply them that is problematic.

Agreed.

dalehitchy1 · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:37

Participant said:
Enough is enough now. Our children are going to grow up surrounded by this **** and being told it's racist to want to do something about it.

Terrorism laws need to be made more robust for starters.

Show me a left wing person on here that doesn't want to counter terrorism and do something about it......

No one is saying you cant do something about it.... Just not do a hitler and 'gas them all'

Buckster · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:37

couldn't understa

Rroff said:
Weird there seems to be quite a lot still getting into equipment, etc. though.

EDIT: Robbo's post above covers the why.

couldn't understand the sky news feed showing the police officers all getting changed on the street ??

surely they'd be ready to go ? bit strange - or evolving threat ?

muon · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:38

The chopper that was in the air over London Bridge doesn't seem to be there anymore.

edit:

Nope still there.

StriderX · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:38

At least its damn difficult to acquire guns in this country, things would be infinitely worse.

jonneymendoza · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:38

Dis86 said:
Well...ill expand since your thought process is obviously stymied. If you stop the first generation then there is no second. Ergo there wouldn't be these attacks.

So stop immigrants coming here? Where already a step closer to that already thanks to brexit

Tosno · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:38

Send them back. Drop them back over their country with a parachute.

Jonnycoupe · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:39

This would explain a hotel evacuation and people on the pyjamas. I assume the suspects has gone in it to hide?

mattyg · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:39

Footage on sky is showing the police man handling people (quite rightly) out of the way. Looks like this is still ongoing and they are trying to get people out the way in a hurry

Rroff · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:39

Buckster said:
couldn't understa

couldn't understand the sky news feed showing the police officers all getting changed on the street ??

surely they'd be ready to go ? bit strange - or evolving threat ?

Edited the post right after - seems to be still ongoing with suspicion of possibly additional suspects.

nemtizz · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:39

Tosno said:
Send them back. Drop them back over their country with a parachute.

So just leave them here then? Will save money.

/\ndy · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:39

Until the government recognises that Islam is the root cause then nothing will change. Keep calling it a religion of peace and tolerating it all you like, but doesn't change the fact that there about 100 quotes in the Koran inciting murder towards non Muslims. Ultimately as long as you have people that are pinned to this ideology then there will always be issues.

Inb4 "bb-b-but not all Muslims are terrorists"

That may be true, but all terrorists are Muslims.

jonneymendoza · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:39

Tosno said:
Send them back. Drop them back over their country with a parachute.

Send them back to there yard down the road in London? They all seem to be British!

Minibiker · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:39

Worrying times if they are still searching for 3 suspects

jonneymendoza · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:41

/\ndy said:
Until the government recognises that Islam is the root cause then nothing will change. Keep calling it a religion of peace and tolerating it all you like, but doesn't change the fact that there about 100 quotes in the Koran inciting murder towards non Muslims. Ultimately as long as you have people that are pinned to this ideology then there will always be issues.

Inb4 "bb-b-but not all Muslims are terrorists"

That may be true, but all terrorists are Muslims.

It doesn't help. The simple minded folks would think all Muslims are terrorists so it's not good.

balky12 · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:41

bobbyspangles said:
AFO? Ankle/foot orthosis or Association for Festival Organisers?

Just incase you were wondering authorised firearms officers.

Dis86 · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:41

Vonhelmet said:
The first generation have been here a while... that horse has long since bolted. And that's before we even consider whether stopping that horse is possible or sensible.

Yes...but perhaps a solution to limiting attacks in the future is to.prevemt more first generation entries...

thenewoc · 3 Jun 2017 at 23:42

Burnsy2023 said:
You do realise that human rights legislation has nothing to do with the EU right? You also realise that the UK was one of the primary authors of the European Convention on Human Rights?

Well it doesn't work in this new era. No good thousands of suspected terrorists mingling in our society. One of the benefits of being an island should be not letting them in, in the first place. Easier to prevent through excluding from country rather than reacting after the terrorist incident has happened. You can check people's bags etc but they'll also use vests etc at some point. You can't stop that or crazed traffic incidents because you don't know who, when or where until it's happened.