Tommy Robinson seems to be on a campaign to out where people on the list live, already a video out showing one guy who'd been housed really close to a school, whilst that is indeed worrying, it's just going to make the job for the services much more difficult rehousing all these individuals and protecting them from revenge attacks.
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Tommy Robinson seems to be on a campaign to out where people on the list live, already a video out showing one guy who'd been housed really close to a school, whilst that is indeed worrying, it's just going to make the job for the services much more difficult rehousing all these individuals and protecting them from revenge attacks.
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...or just draw a cartoon, that also gets you killed.
It's actually people like you that are the sheeple, within 5 minutes I could find hundreds of messages on social media that say the same sort of thing you do. It's the ideology that is the problem, not the west.
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It's not one or the other though is it. Clearly it's not simply western intervention as attacks still take place in countries not involved in conflict such as Sweden.
It's equally naive to think bombing campaigns for extended periods of time don't stir up hatred and lead to the type of situations that we have now.
Someone can explain something without excusing it. Trying to turn any examination of the causes into a statement of approval is unproductive and aggressive. If I raised a pit bull to be vicious and then someone called me on it when it savaged someone, you wouldn't be attacking them for it and insisting they consider only the dog. Asda have never, to my knowledge, bombed your cousin or supplied arms to people who don't like her. If a mind can't simultaneously consider the cause of something and at the same time not condone it, then that mind is too simple for complex thought.
To show solidarity and sympathy with the victims and their loved ones and with a nation that has been hurt.
Other than trite pedantic differences, not really. The silence you can observe as a personal thing if you wish whereas a Facebook change is inherently a public gesture. But is there any particular reason they should be different? Both ways of showing solidarity, sympathy or respect. I get the impression you have a problem with people changing their Facebook pictures.[/QUOTE]
I just saw that interview with the Romanian baker who attacked one of the terrorists with a crate. "I threw a crate at him. I knew he would dodge it so while he was doing that I walked up and hit him in the head with the other crate".
One statement like that does more to make people warm to immigrants in this country than any number of PR programmes by Labour or the Conservatives.
One statement like that does more to make people warm to immigrants in this country than any number of PR programmes by Labour or the Conservatives.
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Listen to what? An Islamic death cult that wants to bring on the end of days? We will arm and fuel up the drones and jets and bomb them as long as they continue to breathe.
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Considering he had an Italian passport, it would make it very easy to get in to the UK given he wasn't on any watch list.
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I just saw that interview with the Romanian baker who attacked one of the terrorists with a crate. "I threw a crate at him. I knew he would dodge it so while he was doing that I walked up and hit him in the head with the other crate".
One statement like that does more to make people warm to immigrants in this country than any number of PR programmes by Labour or the Conservatives.
The Italian-Moroccan immigrant who was the third attacker might take the shine off that line of argument though.
but you weren't talking about a civil war you were on about deaths from the invasion... changing the analogy is rather dubious now as you're referring to something else
I'm still not sure what exactly you're arguing - again the other poster made a reasonable point about dictators and you're like a stuck record moaning about the number of deaths related to the invasion... as you have done on plenty of other occasions... It doesn't really provide an argument against what the other poster said nor provide any evidence for the population wanting Saddam back... it is barely related to this thread which is about an attack in London... but still you persist in making more and more irrelevant posts... each time I pop into the thread there is a reply form you that isn't anything to do with the original point but instead I get quoted and you've got something else to say yet again about people dying... I'm well aware that people died in Iraq, though this is getting silly as you're basically presenting nothing so I'm going to ignore any further replies from you on the subject.
Which will draw more people into their cause as they will see us as the devil when all the collateral damage and innocent deaths portray us as such. That type of behaviour is just snowballing a regime that was in the past a tiny blip of insignificance.
I'd imagine the true people of Syria just want to be less bombed, i highly doubt they want to join a death cult either.
Would be interested if they have had some funeral somewhere or if someone has agreed to perform this - AFAIK these Imans hadn't even been asked but have released a statement saying they won't (which is a good thing). Does make me wonder - have they done it in the past... what happened with Westminster attacker, 7/7 bombers etc..? Seems there is a similar dilemma re: the Manchester bomber.
Perhaps the local authority should just cremate them and flush/dispose of the remains themselves and bill the estate of the terrorists for the cost.
Melted into non-existence would be better
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Islamic State's thoughts:
"The fact is, even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning us, torturing us, vilifying us, and usurping our lands, we would continue to hate you because our primary reason for hating you will not cease to exist until you embrace Islam. Even if you were to pay jizyah [tax for infidels] and live under the authority of Islam in humiliation, we would continue to hate you."
There is no negotiating with them. It is a war.
That's the thoughts of a mad organisation that was allowed to get a grip in an area because it was destablised. It is not the thoughts of all Islam. It wasn't the thoughts of the area before IS came to power either. The fact is that the area was throw into turmoil by a civil war and the meddling of western governments, allowing the maddest most voilent people who have been supplied weapons (probably but I have no proof) from Saudi back doors.
We created that beast and I agree it is necessary to remove it, call that a war if you must but you will not solve the problem quickly or effeciently by adding more and more people to the cause from indiscriminate bombings of civilian areas thought to have IS rebels.
IS rebels are armed civilians, not trained armed forces. Remove the arms and all you have is a ****** off civilian, but that doesn't feed the US coffers though.
Wow anyone seen the video on Facebook of the guy arrested on the bus in East Ham the size of the knife the Police unwrapped is mental
Yeah, need more information on it but it certainly didn't look good, the blade was huge.
I'm sorry but... C.R.A.Z.Y
I tell ya what Asim, who's not a muslimLet's have an undercover operation with footage in every mosque and see what happens, no hiding anything. If they all come back OK, I'll be the first to put my apologies across on this forum
Channel 4 have done a couple of TV shows filmed undercover in Mosques who promote Saudi views.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btx0mm5KCMI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njRKaX0ORuI
Let's stop praying, that'l teach em!
It's a strong religious condemnation by clerics, which is as much as they can do in that context. Death rites are usually quite a big deal in the context of a religion that has them.
It means nothing to me directly. I don't care whether or not followers of a religion I don't believe in perform supposedly magic rituals and say supposedly magic spells for other followers of a religion I don't believe in. But it means something within the context of the religion and some followers of the religion will care.