Long term file storage

potatolord · 12 Apr 2025 at 15:52

Caracus2k said:
Quill and parchment

Chisel and stone block.

opethdisciple · 12 Apr 2025 at 16:12

Why not upload it to s3?

Caracus2k · 12 Apr 2025 at 17:06

potatolord said:
Chisel and stone block.

Get you and your fancy 'chisel'

Cave wall and charcoal/ animal blood is where it's at.

Nasher · 12 Apr 2025 at 17:06

Pho said:
I trust Microsoft...

Guessing you aren't a tech then

shifty_uk · 12 Apr 2025 at 17:13

opethdisciple said:
Why not upload it to s3?

If anything happens to me, I don’t expect someone else to competently use a CLI to extract files

Pho · 12 Apr 2025 at 17:54

Nasher said:
Guessing you aren't a tech then

lol I'm actually a senior dev / tech lead. We have loads of critical stuff running in Azure and don't really have any issues with it either. I do generally prefer running stuff on Linux there though because it's cheaper. And I've recently switched my work work machine to a MacBook Pro because I got sick of the terrible performance and battery life of Windows laptops, so I'm pretty balanced

Nasher · 12 Apr 2025 at 18:25

Pho said:
lol I'm actually a senior dev / tech lead. We have loads of critical stuff running in Azure and don't really have any issues with it either. I do generally prefer running stuff on Linux there though because it's cheaper. And I've recently switched my work work machine to a MacBook Pro because I got sick of the terrible performance and battery life of Windows laptops, so I'm pretty balanced

Azure is just all the same stuff we had before, but long winded and more annoying to use :/

And also now really expensive, so some companies are getting rid of it again!

Stu999 · 12 Apr 2025 at 18:31

How much space do you need?

I just use the lowest tier iCloud now cos I only really store photos and a few documents as well as the back up of my phone. Currently using 5 out of 50GB for 99p per month.

opethdisciple · 12 Apr 2025 at 20:24

shifty_uk said:
If anything happens to me, I don’t expect someone else to competently use a CLI to extract files

It can be done through the browser as well though.

Pho · 12 Apr 2025 at 21:20

Nasher said:
Azure is just all the same stuff we had before, but long winded and more annoying to use :/

And also now really expensive, so some companies are getting rid of it again!

Like any cloud provider it's a pain if something does go wrong and you can't fix it because it's somewhere in the Microsoft/Amazon or whoever side.

I guess the tradeoff is you're not paying for your own hardware and 24/7 on-call network engineers to look after everything.

I think we're paying close to £30k/month for our cloud stuff, and I reckon I could half that by just optimising all our resources if I acutally got the time to do it (most was set-up by other people before my current company bought my company out).

Mysterae_ · 12 Apr 2025 at 23:47

For those storing stuff on the cloud, can you really be 100% certain that the host isn't using it to train their AI?

OspreyO · 13 Apr 2025 at 02:06

Stu999 said:
How much space do you need?

I just use the lowest tier iCloud now cos I only really store photos and a few documents as well as the back up of my phone. Currently using 5 out of 50GB for 99p per month.

I've more data than that on my phone.

Blackjack Davy · 13 Apr 2025 at 03:18

Diddums said:
pen & paper

Even they deteriorate! Mum's got some old photos of my grandparents the photos have faded badly

Pawnless Endgame · 13 Apr 2025 at 06:17

Synology with a pair of Ironwolfs for mirrored RAID. The size of the drives down to what you need.

Nasher · 13 Apr 2025 at 08:30

Pho said:
Like any cloud provider it's a pain if something does go wrong and you can't fix it because it's somewhere in the Microsoft/Amazon or whoever side.

I guess the tradeoff is you're not paying for your own hardware and 24/7 on-call network engineers to look after everything.

I think we're paying close to £30k/month for our cloud stuff, and I reckon I could half that by just optimising all our resources if I acutally got the time to do it (most was set-up by other people before my current company bought my company out).

30k a month.. cheaper to hire your own guys and build your own network tbh

potatolord · 13 Apr 2025 at 08:31

My answer for the last few years has always been a pair of cheap HDDs with the data duplicated , stored in different places.

Having read this, I probably need to check some of those...

OspreyO · 13 Apr 2025 at 09:19

Blackjack Davy said:
Even they deteriorate! Mum's got some old photos of my grandparents the photos have faded badly

Hard to access boxes of old photos aswell. You store them for years then your kids chuck them out because no one wants them.

Randall8686 · 13 Apr 2025 at 09:19

Nas all day long

mid_gen · 13 Apr 2025 at 09:22

Mysterae_ said:
For those storing stuff on the cloud, can you really be 100% certain that the host isn't using it to train their AI?

You can encrypt it yourself if you're that concerned, but the terms and conditions of the provider will be quite clear about access to your data.

Pho · 13 Apr 2025 at 17:51

Nasher said:
30k a month.. cheaper to hire your own guys and build your own network tbh

Someone I know's company spends something like £150k/month just on their dev environment in AWS :eek:

We have a bunch of on-prem servers but I wouldn't trust the internet connection, seems to fall over all the time (it's dedicated business fibre too).

Also one benefit of cloud stuff is you can host things in regions close to customers, kind of hard to do that on your own!