Looking at getting a Glass Room/Conservatory/Wintergarden

[Maccapacca]

Rough cost for decent materials.

Architect / party wall surveyor / engineer £1,000 - £1,500
Foundations including drainage £3000
Brickwork 2x £500 £1,000
Bricklayer for concrete lintols internal openings £750
Glass 5 x 2.5 x £350 £4,375
Fitting 5 x 2.5 x £65 £812.5
Roof 7 x 3 x £300 £6,300
Fitting 7 x 3 x £65 £1,365
Steel over bi fold doors £250
Copings and gutters, PPC aluminium £500
UFH, screed & insulation 5 x 5 x £75 + £500 for manifold and connection to existing £2,375
Stone floor 5 x 5 x £65 £1,625
Sparky £500
Decs £250
Internal bi fold doors £750 x 2 £1,500
Plasterer £750

26,852 not including OH&P and any special access i.e. if everything has to go through through the house.

 

[Raymond Lin]

I've actually built one like it about 10 years ago, came to £18k plus architect fees, may be more but it was not £10k! I still have the drawings somewhere. It was longer than it was wider.

What you need to remember is that because it is built to an existing building and you need to make good of everything, after they destroyed the back end of the house. You may need to move a manhole too as more often than not you either will be building on one or the foundation crosses a drain.

That was in Worcester.

 

[Gilly]

It's no wonder you think it's so expensive if you're willing to pay £500 for a sparky to do 30 mins work :/

 

[Rotty]

It's no wonder you think it's so expensive if you're willing to pay £500 for a sparky to do 30 mins work :/

how much electrical work is there in terms of hours, £500 would get you a full weeks work around here

 

[Maccapacca]

Suppose the tv runs on magic fairy dust and receives the signals through bean cans and string

There's two wall lights probably a couple of sockets low level one behind the tv maybe a phone connection for sky two co axial cables for sky hd maybe cat 5/6 for future proofing, someone already mentioned a ceiling fan and I expect he will want nice sockets not white mk.

Also it's two visits one first fix one second fix.

It always amazes me why people think everything is £10 and every business has to work for wages, profit is not a dirty word.

Let alone being in London with parking and congestion charges.

 

[Rotty]

so £500 for 2 days work?

 

[Maccapacca]

Including materials van parking fuel congestion charge overheads insurance ni c&g training certifications etc yes

We pay electricians 160 a day plus employers ni insurance transport expenses training etc, not really hard to comprehend in London.

 

[Rotty]

didnt know you were including materials, around £100 a day is more the rate round here

 

[Gilly]

Like I said, it's his own fault for living in the smoke. I was working on a normal basis rather than smog tax.

I wasn't including materials either. I wouldn't expect a sparky to turn up with whatever he liked and fit it. I go out and choose my own fixtures and fittings.

£200 is top end of what I'd pay for the work there.

 

[bitslice]

MP's figures seem pretty spot on to me, even outside London you won't see much of a drop - conservatorys are like mini houses really. You might like to consider blinds though.
If you went for one of the nice German products then it gets pricey.


Just to add, if anyone is thinking of a conservatory using polycarbonate for the roof, please don't, they are awful to live with - glass really is the baseline.

 

[Maccapacca]

We had a problem with blinds on a high glass specification project, people were pulling them half down and the build up of heat behind the blind was causing the glass to crack, the solution was to fit very light blinds rather than the heavy blinds that were there, it's not really a problem with standard glass but these were triple glazed pilkington with a very soft suncool coatings.

 

[*Moangroan*]

I would have closed doors to that as well as if you dont you need planing permission

 

[Mark A]

MP's figures seem pretty spot on to me, even outside London you won't see much of a drop - conservatorys are like mini houses really.

Just to add, if anyone is thinking of a conservatory using polycarbonate for the roof, please don't, they are awful to live with - glass really is the baseline.

The prices seem massively high for where I live. It's probably why a lot of my mates are moving to the south as it pays a lot better...

Also agree with polycarb roofs, they are very noisy when it rains. I'd go for triple glazed, A-rated self cleaning glass if I was to ever get a conservatory. Even then it's still not going to be as warm as with a proper insulated roof. There's quite a few companies around here who specialize in converting conservatory roofs to an insulated fake tile effect roof to make the rooms more habitable all year round.

 

[Hamish]

I would have closed doors to that as well as if you dont you need planing permission

It needs planning permission anyway due to the proximity to the boundry.
Only thing having closed doors would do is cut down on building regs.

 

[Maccapacca]

The prices seem massively high for where I live. It's probably why a lot of my mates are moving to the south as it pays a lot better...

I based my fag packet costs on typical London rates which can be easily factored for location, SPONS / BCIS have typical adjustments for location based on %age.

IIRC because my SPONS is at work my London price has an index of 110 and NW would be something like 85 which would be 29% reduction on most items except specialist materials which would roughly stay the same.

 

[Dave L]

If I priced everything using SPONS I wouldn't have any work!!!!!!

 

[Maccapacca]

If I priced everything using SPONS I wouldn't have any work!!!!!!

I didn't price it using spons just used the analysis of areas to demonstrate the difference in costs for areas rather than just sweepingly saying it's cheaper here

 

[Hamish]

Interesting article RE extensions: http://www.homesandproperty.co.uk/y...tecture_and_eco_living/perfectextensions.html

So looks like I'll be spending 50k on a good quality 3x4m glass roof extension with UF heating, cavity walls either side and bi-fold doors at the back. Hoping that it'll add at least that onto the value of the house though.

 

[Maccapacca]

No no you can do it for 10k didn't you know.

If you're happy to spend 50k you will get a good quality extension with everything you want.

Don't let an architect go mad on it unless you want something different but be prepared to pay

 

[Hamish]

Got a proper quote, 56k inc VAT for everything including planning permission, building regs, lintel etc.
Seems as expected.

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