Looking for some dumbells

adamsymons said:
not really, if your doing curls etc properly you should be isolating the bicep/tricep.

you can use dumbells to work out your chest, you can press them, and do some fly (cant think of what the correct name for it is).
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Ok then well i gues in a way its probably better if i can work them out separately. That way switching between exercizes wont overdo my upper arms too much.

Just been looking at that website someone linked above about curls etc. This site is good, makes it quite easy to see what you ahve to do. Otherwize i gues id just be making it up as i go along :p
 
This thread is silly on so many levels...

I don't think you will gain very much muscle at all.. maybe a few lb's but trust me your chest will be tiny and your arms will be weedy.. You can't just turn into arnie over night.. When you realised how hard it is unless very naturally gifted you will probably cry :p

A lot of people are naive in thinking it is easy to get bigger. All 'Mens health' editors should be shot dead imo.


edit: and do you realise you've only going to have 10kg dumbbels?! I can easily curl both dumbbells in one arm and thats an isolation with one of you're smallest muscles :p (and I'm not even BIG or STRONG)

Trust me thats not enough weight!!!

get 50kg else you will just regret it!
 
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adamsymons said:
btw those dumbells shown above are only 10kg on each dumbell. thats going to be too light. at least get 15kg per dumbell
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Ok then, are there are good makes to look out for for this? I mean they all look the same too me but some cost more then others and i dont know why lol. Or a good website to get them off of.

gareth.e said:
This thread is silly on so many levels...

I don't think you will gain very much muscle at all.. maybe a few lb's but trust me your chest will be tiny and your arms will be weedy.. You can't just turn into arnie over night.. When you realised how hard it is unless very naturally gifted you will probably cry :p

A lot of people are nieve in thinking it is easy to get bigger. All 'Mens health' editors should be shot dead imo.
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The point is im not looking to gain huge amounts of muscle. Mainly tone up and just meat them up a bit. Ive never said i wanted to turn into arnie over night. Infact quiet the oposit throughout. I knew full well dumbells are not the best way to body build but im not looking to really put that much on anyway. The reason why i said i didn't want to be like arny was to get across taht point. Evidently not very well.
 
gareth.e said:
This thread is silly on so many levels...

I don't think you will gain very much muscle at all.. maybe a few lb's but trust me your chest will be tiny and your arms will be weedy.. You can't just turn into arnie over night.. When you realised how hard it is unless very naturally gifted you will probably cry :p

A lot of people are nieve in thinking it is easy to get bigger. All 'Mens health' editors should be shot dead imo.


edit: and do you realise you've only going to have 10kg dumbbels?! I can easily curl both dumbbells in one arm and thats an isolation with one of you're smallest muscles :p

Trust me thats not enough weight!!!
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army uses pretty light dumbells with combination of lots of body weight exersises in circuits, rope climbing etc. nothing wrong in it imo. couple of dumbells, pull up bar, could put a bit of weight on/ get fitter. imo and get good sweat on lol. long as not looking be massive!

edit: but would still go for around 50kg haha. would increase available exersises by quite a bit and won't grow out of them so quickly.
 
8igdave said:
Ok then, are there are good makes to look out for for this? I mean they all look the same too me but some cost more then others and i dont know why lol. Or a good website to get them off of.



The point is im not looking to gain huge amounts of muscle. Mainly tone up and just meat them up a bit. Ive never said i wanted to turn into arnie over night. Infact quiet the oposit throughout. I knew full well dumbells are not the best way to body build but im not looking to really put that much on anyway. The reason why i said i didn't want to be like arny was to get across taht point. Evidently not very well.
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you didn't exactly look hard did you? :D

Dumbbells are actually a very good way of body building.. You really need a bench though too!
 
gareth.e said:
edit: and do you realise you've only going to have 10kg dumbbels?! I can easily curl both dumbbells in one arm and thats an isolation with one of you're smallest muscles :p (and I'm not even BIG or STRONG)

Trust me thats not enough weight!!!

get 50kg else you will just regret it!
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Ive already stated i know nothing about this stuff. Instead of telling me its wrong show me what i should get instead. I have no idea what makes are good or what websites to buy off. Nor am i looking to spend a great deal.

Also what weight is a good weight on each arm to start at if ** 17 and not really very strong. I know its pointless lifting somthing you struggle with, better to use smaller weights and do more reps.

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already said i dont have room for a bench due to having a drum kit. And you can say i didn't look but i have looked and i see a whole list of weights all the same at differnt pricse and dont know which to get. Though i was lookign on amazon mainly.


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Im thinking 30KG dumbells wouldbe a good start which i can either upgrade or if i do get into it go to a gym and use a bench and bigger things. But i very much doubt i will as like ive said before im not looking to get that big. I am very skinny at the moment, too skinny.
 
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8igdave said:
Ive already stated i know nothing about this stuff. Instead of telling me its wrong show me what i should get instead. I have no idea what makes are good or what websites to buy off. Nor am i looking to spend a great deal.

Also what weight is a good weight on each arm to start at if ** 17 and not really very strong. I know its pointless lifting somthing you struggle with, better to use smaller weights and do more reps.

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already said i dont have room for a bench due to having a drum kit. And you can say i didn't look but i have looked and i see a whole list of weights all the same at differnt pricse and dont know which to get. Though i was lookign on amazon mainly.
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gareth.e said:
you didn't exactly look hard did you? :D

Dumbbells are actually a very good way of body building.. You really need a bench though too!
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And I've been trying to check ebay for you.. Which is why I asked where you live.. Also the fact that I'm living in essex too (southend) :o

Is ebay working? It doesn't seem to want to do any searches?
 
I didn't think about adds, mmm i shall have to look into that.

adamsymons said:
hwo much do you wanna spend? unless your gonna use them religiously you may aswell just buy some cheap ones.
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Well really aiming for around £30, i know im not going to be using them religiously. Cheaper is obiously better but ive learnt in life that the cheapest things are oftern the cheapest for a reason. Another reason i had no clue what to get. Obiously not intrested in anything chrome etc.

Also ill be going to uni in less then a year hopefully where there will be a cheap and well equiped gym in the uni.

gareth.e said:
And I've been trying to check ebay for you.. Which is why I asked where you live.. Also the fact that I'm living in essex too (southend) :o

Is ebay working? It doesn't seem to want to do any searches?
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Thanks very much. If you can give me some pointers to look out for i can check my self as i dont expect someone else to do the dirty work. Just point me in a direction.
 
personally i hate using plastic weights. they really dont feel right when using them. normally the bars bobble out in the middle aswell :S

uni gyms rock!!! mines 120quid a year and has a huge free weights room :D
 
8igdave said:
Thanks very much. If you can give me some pointers to look out for i can check my self as i dont expect someone else to do the dirty work. Just point me in a direction.
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I put in a random CO chelmsford postcode and there doesn't seem to be anything local to you :( (within 25miles) sometimes you can get lucky.. I did a 25 mile radius of southend too and there wasn't much..

In terms of what to look for you basically want a 30kg-50kg spinlock set of dumbbells which may or may not come with a barbell (make sure there will be 4 plates of the same kind for what ever you get.. E.g 4x2.5kg plates Ensure this because if you only get like 2x5kg and 2x7.5kg plates then the dumbbells arn't going to match up very well which may or may not both you.

The argos 30kg and 50kg sets look fine.. Weight is very expensive! about £1 per kg ++

I found an awesome deal on ebay for £200 which included a rack with 2 pulley systems, 2 benches, 2x20kg plates, 16x10kg plates, and lots more smaller weights and bars and bits and everything.. :D

edit: brb it's shoulders time!!! :p
 
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Yeah im lookin forward to the uni gym. I love the rowing machines hahah :D

gareth.e said:
I put in a random CO chelmsford postcode and there doesn't seem to be anything local to you :( (within 25miles) sometimes you can get lucky.. I did a 25 mile radius of southend too and there wasn't much..

In terms of what to look for you basically want a 30kg-50kg spinlock set of dumbbells which may or may not come with a barbell (make sure there will be 4 plates of the same kind for what ever you get.. E.g 4x2.5kg plates Ensure this because if you only get like 2x5kg and 2x7.5kg plates then the dumbbells arn't going to match up very well which may or may not both you.

The argos 30kg and 50kg sets look fine.. Weight is very expensive! about £1 per kg ++

I found an awesome deal on ebay for £200 which included a rack with 2 pulley systems, 2 benches, 2x20kg plates, 16x10kg plates, and lots more smaller weights and bars and bits and everything.. :D

edit: brb it's shoulders time!!! :p
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Thanks i apreciate you looking for me. I dont think many would go to that trouble.

If i dont have room for a bench is there much point getting a bar, can i still do good exercizes without one?

I was lookign at this set but i was wondering how much is actually on the hand held dumbells? If i could ger 15kg on each that would be good i think.

And i think 200 quid is a bit much haha :p And im not quite sure waht you mean about matching up.
 
Can we just set things straight here and get back to basics. It seems you're buying a hammer to combe your hair.

To gain muscle:

  • Eat - You eat lots of clean foods to fuel energy and repair damage.
  • Exercise - You stress the muscles to damage them.
  • Rest - You rest to repair and grow your damaged muscles.
You want to tone up and grow more muscle on your arms. Forget it.

Get the dumbells, ideally a mix of 20Kg, 30Kg and 50Kg and stick to compounds.

  • Chest - Bench press the 20's.
  • Back - Bent over row the 30's.
  • Legs - Squat the 50's.
When this becomes easy for you, say 5x5 with clean, strict form and little rest in between, then come back and look to start developing a proper routine.

Buying 20's and curling them will do nothing for you.
 
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thats quite expensive and requires buying a bench. Which is a lot more then i had in mind considering how im only wanting to make my self a bit stronger.

Can you explain to me then what sort of effect id get just from getting 30kg dumbells? Im reallu not lookign for huge gains.
 
8igdave said:
Yeah im lookin forward to the uni gym. I love the rowing machines hahah :D



Thanks i apreciate you looking for me. I dont think many would go to that trouble.

If i dont have room for a bench is there much point getting a bar, can i still do good exercizes without one?

I was lookign at this set but i was wondering how much is actually on the hand held dumbells? If i could ger 15kg on each that would be good i think.

And i think 200 quid is a bit much haha :p And im not quite sure waht you mean about matching up.
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A bench really will help you although it's not the end of the world.. The main benefit is working your chest properly and not having to improvise by sitting on an office chair or leaning against your bed :p

basically what I was on about is if you have 2x7.5kg and 2x5kg then each dumbbell will have to consist of 1x7.5kg plate and 1x5kg plate meaning they are un ballanced unless you attempt to conter it best you can by putting a 2.5kg plate on the 5kg plate side.. does that make sense now?!?!? :o

It's a good investment for me though,(Although I work at a gym at uni :D) Its unlikely I'll run out of weight any time soon :p

The only things I can't do are cable flies, weighted dips (I can do dips in my kitchen :p) and leg press when my legs are dying from squats already..
 
gareth.e said:
A bench really will help you although it's not the end of the world.. The main benefit is working your chest properly and not having to improvise by sitting on an office chair or leaning against your bed :p

basically what I was on about is if you have 2x7.5kg and 2x5kg then each dumbbell will have to consist of 1x7.5kg plate and 1x5kg plate meaning they are un ballanced unless you attempt to conter it best you can by putting a 2.5kg plate on the 5kg plate side.. does that make sense now?!?!? :o

It's a good investment for me though,(Although I work at a gym at uni :D) Its unlikely I'll run out of weight any time soon :p

The only things I can't do are cable flies, weighted dips (I can do dips in my kitchen :p) and leg press when my legs are dying from squats already..
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Yeah i got a proper office chair. Though from the sounds of it according to Ed there isn't much point. Sigh.

ahh yeah of corse, gota ya. Kinda obious now what you ment by unbalanced. I am lookin forward to the uni gym.

U at essex uni then? Im hopign to go to leeds if not then brummy. I got all 5 offers just gota get the grades :p.

Shoudl be revising got 6 exams in january but its like, argh dont want to!
 
8igdave said:
thats quite expensive and requires buying a bench. Which is a lot more then i had in mind considering how im only wanting to make my self a bit stronger.

Can you explain to me then what sort of effect id get just from getting 30kg dumbells? Im reallu not lookign for huge gains.
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sheeet!!

If you want to make yourself generally stronger you're going entirely the wrong way about it! You need to do compounds!

I'm struggling to advise you!.. I think the best thing to do would be to go to a local cheap gym and pay for entrance twice a week!

Work out 3 times a week and do 1 of the workouts at home each week.. e.g.

monday: push at home (for instance bench, dips or pressups)
wednesday: pull at the gym (pullups, rows...)
friday: legs at the gym (squats, lunges...)

then rotate it:
monday: push at the gym
wednesday: pull at home
friday: legs at the gym
 
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