Looking for some dumbells

sheeet!!

If you want to make yourself generally stronger you're going entirely the wrong way about it! You need to do compounds!

I'm struggling to advise you!.. I think the best thing to do would be to go to a local cheap gym and pay for entrance twice a week!

Work out 3 times a week and do 1 of the workouts at home each week.. e.g.

monday: push at home (for instance bench, dips or pressups)
wednesday: pull at the gym (pullups, rows...)
friday: legs at the gym (squats, lunges...)

then rotate it:
monday: push at the gym
wednesday: pull at home
friday: legs at the gym

Lol thts wht i been saying the whole time. Id like to make my arms a bit stronger and less weedy and improve my chest a bit. I didn't mean my whole body though just arms and chest my legs are already quite strong.

And id ont even know what compounds are lol.
 
Yeah i got a proper office chair. Though from the sounds of it according to Ed there isn't much point. Sigh.

ahh yeah of corse, gota ya. Kinda obious now what you ment by unbalanced. I am lookin forward to the uni gym.

U at essex uni then? Im hopign to go to leeds if not then brummy. I got all 5 offers just gota get the grades :p.

Shoudl be revising got 6 exams in january but its like, argh dont want to!

Yeah!.. But nah I'm at Brighton Uni (wooo!!) My parents live here in southend.. I'm home for xmas :p

try and find a skanky bodybuilders gym in your area or just a cheap gym.. Go a couple of times a week but make sure you log your progression! and stick to the compounds.. (also click me for a free visit :p)

what grades do you need to get? ABB?
 
Lol thts wht i been saying the whole time. Id like to make my arms a bit stronger and less weedy and improve my chest a bit. I didn't mean my whole body though just arms and chest my legs are already quite strong.

And id ont even know what compounds are lol.

I love how everyone sais their legs are stong.. OF COURSE THE A FRIGGING STRONG! THEY ARE YOUR LARGEST MUSCLES AND YOU USE THEM EVERY DAY!!! :o

And..

compounds are where you used more than one muscle group.. Such as bench press.. you mainly use your chest, tris and front delts where as a biceps curls you are isolating your biceps and your biceps only (unless you're cheating :p)
 
I love how everyone sais their legs are stong.. OF COURSE THE A FRIGGING STRONG! THEY ARE YOUR LARGEST MUSCLES AND YOU USE THEM EVERY DAY!!! :o

And..

compounds are where you used more than one muscle group.. Such as bench press.. you mainly use your chest, tris and front delts where as a biceps curls you are isolating your biceps and your biceps only (unless you're cheating :p)

Well i do a lot of runnign and squash etc which built my legs up quite a bit. Obiously not like body building but more so then my arms are built up anyway. But like ive said, im not building my arms up to the point of putting me out of proportion. If anything my arms are all weedy and therefore not looking in proportion with the rest of me!

And ooo thats what you mean by compounds. It seems tyou lot seem to talk in your own languages. I only know what curls are becauase i looked at that website lol. The others i just gues :p
 
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The thing with going to a gym is i very much doubt i can lift much at the moment and i wouldn't really know what to do. Much rather embarase my self alone.

I need ABB for birmigham but AAB for leeds, A in maths and furthermaths. Eak! lol.

Yeah im going to do maths. No im not mega geeky and have seen some quiet hot girls in the open day lectures for maths Lmao. Unles my brain was lieign to me just to make me feel better!
 
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The thing with going to a gym is i very much doubt i can lift much at the moment and i wouldn't really know what to do. Much rather embarase my self alone.

I need ABB for birmigham but AAB for leeds, A in maths and furthermaths. Eak! lol.

Yeah im going to do maths. No im not mega geeky and have seen some quiet hot girls in the open day lectures for maths Lmao.

I would say I'd visit you :D (and laugh) But you're an hour away..

I dropped out of A level maths as I had a woman that tried to teach me maths in african and an old woman that couldn't teach.. I couldn't be bothered with it in the end.. Annoying thing is standard deviation for instance took them 3 weeks to go through it and they couldn't teach me. I sat infront of a lecturer along with 300 people at uni and within 5 minutes I was teaching my friend next to me :mad:

And I know what you mean about hot, quiet geeky girls :cool: Only thing with them is sometimes they can be so socially retarded they are weird.

Brighton uni on the other hand is filled with lots of different types of people:
-clever people who just can't be assed.
-Dumb people that try hard
-average people that try average
-people who don't give a **** about uni and are only there for the city/nightlife
-and international students..
 
I would say I'd visit you :D (and laugh) But you're an hour away..

I dropped out of A level maths as I had a woman that tried to teach me maths in african and an old woman that couldn't teach.. I couldn't be bothered with it in the end.. Annoying thing is standard deviation for instance took them 3 weeks to go through it and they couldn't teach me. I sat infront of a lecturer along with 300 people at uni and within 5 minutes I was teaching my friend next to me :mad:

And I know what you mean about hot, quiet geeky girls :cool: Only thing with them is sometimes they can be so socially retarded they are weird.

Brighton uni on the other hand is filled with lots of different types of people:
-clever people who just can't be assed.
-Dumb people that try hard
-average people that try average
-people who don't give a **** about uni and are only there for the city/nightlife
-and international students..

Lol laugh at me. I suspect you would not be the onlyone as i choke my self on a bar on a benchpress lmao.

My teaching is a god damn joke. The physics teachers cant do gcse. I taught my physics teacher the speed of light twice. Only chemistry and maths have anywhere near semi decent teachers.

They put me in set 3 out of 5 for english, that means expected to get a D maybe a C if lucky and i got an A* in english litriture and A* in english language. God damn joke!


What you doign in uni?
 
HA HA, perhaps it is the GCSE exam that is the joke :D

anyway I don't know if your dumbbell choice has been decided yet, but I'm going to buy the 20kg set and the 4x5kg extra weights tomorrow.

The fact i cant spell for shiz has nothing to do with it. I tell you i used very careful choice of words coz i know i cant spell well! but i am dislexic and have another eye problem which causes my eyes to alternate and i miss words out all togetehr! lol.

Infacty my english litriture exam went into special consideration because i read the qusetion wrong and it was worth 50% of my exam lol.


As for the weights i would very much like to hear from you about them if you do get them please :)
 
Lol laugh at me. I suspect you would not be the onlyone as i choke my self on a bar on a benchpress lmao.

My teaching is a god damn joke. The physics teachers cant do gcse. I taught my physics teacher the speed of light twice. Only chemistry and maths have anywhere near semi decent teachers.

They put me in set 3 out of 5 for english, that means expected to get a D maybe a C if lucky and i got an A* in english litriture and A* in english language. God damn joke!


What you doign in uni?

lol :D Nahh I wouldn't be harsh like that.. Only one my freinds that I sometimes train with decided to take one of our mutual freinds to the gym once.. My friend did a set on 60kg to try and show off to him.. then leave the weight on for the guy whos never done bench press to do.. The weight goes straight from a locked out position to slamming the poor guy on his chest.. He ended up with a shoulder injury for a few months. I can't believe my friend is such a ****** he knew forewell he wouldnt be able to handle it...:(

Meet my fat retarded polish physics teacher.. I was in the top set for science (doing tripple science) and he entered me in for the foundation exam! I had to get my head of year to come into the lesson and get him to ask why I has been moved down.. (I had even got a B in the mock exam!!! we did) It comes to results day.. Oh look I got an A. He use to kick me out of his lessons all the time and even attempted to stop me from doing the practicals.. For my gcse coursework I had to get my friend to get 2 sets of equipment as he wouldn't give any to me. Biggest **** take of my LIFE!

I'm doing a Business degree and it's really boring.. I think I made a BIG mistake!!!
 
lol ignore me, i was only playing! I have them on reserve, so if/when I manage to get them I shall let you know what they are like.

lol i new u wernt being offensive. And cheers would be good to know. Though i gues its not quite easy to say much if youve never tryed others. But all help is appricated :)
 
lol :D Nahh I wouldn't be harsh like that.. Only one my freinds that I sometimes train with decided to take one of our mutual freinds to the gym once.. My friend did a set on 60kg to try and show off to him.. then leave the weight on for the guy whos never done bench press to do.. The weight goes straight from a locked out position to slamming the poor guy on his chest.. He ended up with a shoulder injury for a few months. I can't believe my friend is such a ****** he knew forewell he wouldnt be able to handle it...:(

Meet my fat retarded polish physics teacher.. I was in the top set for science (doing tripple science) and he entered me in for the foundation exam! I had to get my head of year to come into the lesson and get him to ask why I has been moved down.. (I had even got a B in the mock exam!!! we did) It comes to results day.. Oh look I got an A. He use to kick me out of his lessons all the time and even attempted to stop me from doing the practicals.. For my gcse coursework I had to get my friend to get 2 sets of equipment as he wouldn't give any to me. Biggest **** take of my LIFE!

I'm doing a Business degree and it's really boring.. I think I made a BIG mistake!!!

haha i had a feeling physics teachers well wide would be retards! Tbh if you get a physics degree you go build rockets or something. Not teach lol.

I used to put my hand through the bunsen buner flames in tripple science then be like OOOOO #!?!!! and the teacehr would bel ike AHHHHH but if u move it fast enough you get a cushion of air tehehe :)

Tho i did almost break my neck in biology when we had theese jabs and it lowered my blood pressuer to much and bout 3 minutse later i pased out off a science stall, smacked my neck on the corner of the cubbords behind, had a spaz on the floor and got my head stuck underneith a cuboard in the process.

had to have a neck brace for a week lol.

Ahh that must be a nigthmare knowing your racking that bill up and hating it in the process. At least the nightlife of a uni is great!
 
Lol thts wht i been saying the whole time. Id like to make my arms a bit stronger and less weedy and improve my chest a bit. I didn't mean my whole body though just arms and chest my legs are already quite strong.

And id ont even know what compounds are lol.

ok ok ok, enough.

this thread has been fun but now its time for some information...

You will NOT stop yourself looking weedy and small by doing a few dumbell curls and very light other DB exercises.

Now, compound exercises use more than 1 joint, isolation exercises use just 1 joint.
For you, forget any isolation exercises (bicep curls!).

You do not know a thing about gaining muscle and seem to want a quick way to BIG GUNS!!!11 and a bigger chest. Thats all well and good, but you will look stupid AND you will cause imbalances in your body that will cause you pain and agro in the future.

Want a bigger chest - you need to balance the back
Want big bi's - balance with your tris (tris will make your arms bigger, not your bi's).
Ok so now you have bigger bis and tris and also chest and back, what now?
Well, your shoulders will look bloody stupid (we will ignore the fact that you wont get a bigger chest without stronger shoulders and tris for now), also, you will have weedy stick legs. Trust me, this looks stupid.
So, you need to balance the upper and lower body, leg work (and no, running or cycling is not enough).

So now you have bigger shoulders and bigger arms, a bigger chest and a nicely wider back, your legs are growing and you are thinking 'i've put on a few lb's of lean mass, im looking good'. You would be looking good but again there is something not quite right, your core!!
Big strong core is a huge key to a lot of growth.


Ok, what does all that mean?
It means that you will not look good and most of all you will not really grow at all, but doing only exercises to work the biceps and chest.


What do i suggest?
You are looking at potentially joining a gym anyway, wait till the Jan promotions then go join a gym.


And dont worry, you wont ever look like Arnie, infact, you wont ever get anywhere near close :]
 
Thanks, i think you guys are still thinking im looking for bigger then i actually am. I just dont wana be a stick basicaly.

Your right i dont have a clue about muscle gain but i do know it takes a lot of work and im certainly not looking for big guns.

The problem is my arms are not in proportion with my body. Id like to bring them back up to speed and when i say improve my chest i mean i ahve a totaly flat chest from top to bottem. having a wee bit of tone in my pecks would be nice if you get me.

So i dont really feel there is much need for strengthening my back and shoulders etc. If i did deside to keep at it then obiously yeah your totaly right.

And yeah i didn't really think about my tricepts i gues they are what makes quite a difference.

As for how to go about this, what compound exercises would you suggest which dont require a bench or signing up to a gym which im going to do when i go to uni as the gym will be cheap and well equiped. When i get to the gym in uni then ill probaly be looking to do a lot more with my body.

I think the best way to describe what im looking for is just somethign nicer to look at. I dont like wearing a t-shirt and seeing two sticks lol. If you guys kinda get me now?
 
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I used to think what you seem to think about the "body builders" in here - that they were all huge guys pumping tonnes of weight every other day, but it turns out it's actually really difficult for us skinnies to put on some muscles.

I read the sticky, and some of the discussion on it, and a few pages in, realised the guy who wrote it looked normal (see this post) not like some wrestler or world's strongest man contestant.
 
I used to think what you seem to think about the "body builders" in here - that they were all huge guys pumping tonnes of weight every other day, but it turns out it's actually really difficult for us skinnies to put on some muscles.

I read the sticky, and some of the discussion on it, and a few pages in, realised the guy who wrote it looked normal (see this post) not like some wrestler or world's strongest man contestant.

haha o my, excuse me while i go cry. And why am i up at half 3 when i gota do laods of work tomorrow and be up at 9? lol.
 
The quickest way to look less skinny is to constantly eat crap and not do any exercise. The problem with this is skinny guys with big stomachs look grotesque (unless you're 85 years old). You may be fortunate to gain weight evenly but you'll only know once it's on and then it's too late.

The alternative is to go after an athletic look which is a reasonable objective given your build. Forget buff and oily bodies, that's for gay parties. Think strong, fit and healthy. These are the most important factors, far above looks and size.

Being skinny with small chest, wrists and arms doesn't mean you'll never look like some big guy. When you hit 30 you'll change, trust me. Just focus on the three key points above.

Strong
Gain weight and muscle by eating plenty of good food and lifting the maximum weight strict form allows. Stick to compounds exercises. They're the most beneficial.

Look at the mechanics of your body, it's push/pull.

Bench is push (chest), row is pull (back)
Press is push (shoulders), pull-up is pull (lats/sides)

See what's going on? You need to balance the weight to be effective. Your arms too have a push/pull motion, use weights to build on this.

The golden rule is that everything comes from a strong core. This doesn't mean doing 100 situps, the best way to build core strength is to squat as it brings everything into one exercise, it's the mother of all compounds. Start with your bodyweight to learn form, then add the bar, then with experience and assistance, add weight. When you can squat effectively, you'll find gains in all other areas far easier to acquire, even arms.

While we're talking arms, Morba touched on this. Your bicep is small, the muscle under your arm (tricep) is big. It's this muscle that will give you bigger looking arms, not biceps. Bear this in mind.

Fit
When cutting the excess from the bulking process, intense cardio to boost stamina and fitness. You'll be surprised how effective weightlifting itself it for stamina and cardio. I hate running and cycling, swimming is too much hassle to keep up the frequency so I box and also do more weights. Instead of lifting heavy and slow, I lift light weights and keep up the intensity and repetitions. Try doing 100 squats with 40Kg, it hurts.

Healthy
By eating good clean foods you'll properly fuel your body for the shock of training but here's the important part, form. Form is where the exercise you perform is correct in terms of working the muscle without risking damage to the joints or over-extension. Correct form will allow you to gain faster. The reason people rarely use correct form is because you'll struggle to lift far lighter weights than the people around you and ego/pride etc will often steer you the wrong way.

Lift a heavy weight incorrectly, tear a muscle and it's over. I still have problems now from being a knob in the gym when I was a kid, things I could have avoided.

Finally
This isn't the opposite of a diet. Fat women are always dieting because they're looking for quick fixes, it's why they were trainers but don't run.

It's a lifestyle, if you want to look big, you'll need to live big. If you want to look fit, you'll need to live fit. It's this commitment that stops the large majority of people from looking after themselves or taking shortcuts in the form of drugs.

Good luck with it and remember, people are here to help but commitment is needed for people to commit to you.

"Big arms in 6 weeks?" will get you shot down in flames :)
 
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I used to think what you seem to think about the "body builders" in here - that they were all huge guys pumping tonnes of weight every other day, but it turns out it's actually really difficult for us skinnies to put on some muscles.

I read the sticky, and some of the discussion on it, and a few pages in, realised the guy who wrote it looked normal (see this post) not like some wrestler or world's strongest man contestant.

so what if he looks "normal"?
What is written is very good. The writer got himself to a level that he liked and kept at that size.

haha o my, excuse me while i go cry. And why am i up at half 3 when i gota do laods of work tomorrow and be up at 9? lol.

i don't get whats so funny?
 
Oh dear I don't know whether or not to laugh or cry at this thread. Dave, listen to what gareth and morba are saying and what Ed has to say.

You will not become "muscley" doing dumbbell curls and doing some small chest exercises... you will not become arnie-like. To do that you need some serious amounts of weights for years and some serious amount of eating and it requires dedication.

Frankly I think you're wasting your time.
 
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