Looking to upgrade and I need guidance

dudebro2102

dudebro2102

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Hello folks! Looking to upgrade my rig. And I would like to switch to AMD after been intel as far as I can remember.

Thank you

Purchase Timeframe: Next Month

Budget: Flexible

Usage: Mainly gaming

Preferences: I've still got my LG 34GN850

Current Hardware:
Case: Corsair Vengeance c70
GPU: NVIDIA 4090
RAM: 16gb
Processor: i7-8700k
SSD: Samsung 850 evo 1tb
Nvme: Samsung 990 pro 2tb
HDD: Yes (I forgot the brand/type)
PSU: corsair 850w rmx
Mobo: ROG Maximus X Code

Peripherals: None, current peripherals are in working order

Special Needs/Requirements (inc Wi-Fi): Mobo needs wifi and bluetooth, internal USB-c header, 4x sata without crippling the the x16 graphics lane & a few M.2

Basket:
1 X Fractal Design North XL Full Tower Charcoal Black Case - £169.99

SKU: CAS-FTL-02372


1 X Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Dual Tower CPU Air Cooler - £39.95

SKU: COO-TLR-03279


1 X AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail - £349.99

SKU: CP-3DT-AM


1 X G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo EXPO 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - B - £119.99

SKU: MEM-GSK-01360


1 X Asrock X870E Taichi Lite (Socket AM5) DDR5 EATX Motherboard - £430.00

SKU: MOT-ASR-03304
 
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dudebro2102 said:
Mobo needs wifi and bluetooth, internal USB-c header, 4x sata without crippling the the x16 graphics lane & a few M.2
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dudebro2102 said:
1 X Asrock X870E Taichi Lite (Socket AM5) DDR5 EATX Motherboard - £430.00
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From what you've said there, that seems like an unnecessarily high-end board? Is there a feature I'm missing that you need?
 
I'd just flat out pony up the extra for a 9800X3D if you've a flexible budget and only game.

The motherboard is an odd one, could be worth going for a 48-64gb set depending on the games you do play. While 32gb is fine in most instances there are titles that benefit from more, especially if you ever mod things. Cities Skylines for example will use as much as you've available and still be left wanting if you go nuts, and there's a few others out there to boot.

Spending £400 on a motherboard is insane in this sense given you could spend half as much and get more RAM and a stronger CPU for the difference.

May I ask, are you building a streaming rig? If so that isn't just gaming and would skew suggestions a tad.
 
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dudebro2102 said:
I was thinking of sticking 1 or 2 more nvme's. But I could downgrade the Mobo.

MSI MPG B650 Edge WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard?​

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If I was buying a highish end platform now I'd do this:

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £209.99 (includes delivery: £0.00)​


It's very hard to beat for the price point, has (most) of your needs.
 
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Gray2233 said:
I'd just flat out pony up the extra for a 9800X3D if you've a flexible budget and only game.

The motherboard is an odd one, could be worth going for a 48-64gb set depending on the games you do play. While 32gb is fine in most instances there are titles that benefit from more, especially if you ever mod things. Cities Skylines for example will use as much as you've available and still be left wanting if you go nuts, and there's a few others out there to boot.

Spending £400 on a motherboard is insane in this sense given you could spend half as much and get more RAM and a stronger CPU for the difference.
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May I ask, are you building a streaming rig? If so that isn't just gaming and would skew suggestions a tad.
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Mostly just streaming games
Tetras said:
From what you've said there, that seems like an unnecessarily high-end board? Is there a feature I'm missing that you need?
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Lane sharing I think. I dont exactly know the term but its like, If I wanted to stick more nvme's without hindering the performance of the gpu. But yeah, I could downgrade the mobo a bit and go for what Gray2233 recommends. And a bit future proofing for upcoming games like gta6?
Thank you
 
dudebro2102 said:
Lane sharing I think. I dont exactly know the term but its like, If I wanted to stick more nvme's without hindering the performance of the gpu. But yeah, I could downgrade the mobo a bit and go for what Gray2233 recommends. And a bit future proofing for upcoming games like gta6?
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It is complicated because every motherboard is different, but when USB4 is present (any X870/X870E) you'd usually expect lane sharing on 1 or more of the M.2 slots. The majority of boards do not have an issue with running 2x M.2 (so long as you choose the right ones to use).

3x M.2 slots or especially 4x M.2 slots (this one is super tricky with current gen boards), you have to be more careful with the choice and even dig into the manual. Unless there's an explanation somewhere like this (timestamps in the description):
 
dudebro2102 said:
Mostly just streaming games

Lane sharing I think. I dont exactly know the term but its like, If I wanted to stick more nvme's without hindering the performance of the gpu. But yeah, I could downgrade the mobo a bit and go for what Gray2233 recommends. And a bit future proofing for upcoming games like gta6?
Thank you
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You're over thinking, if you must upgrade and do stream right now buy the board I suggested and put the difference into a 4tb primary drive, and then you've at least one good secondary.

Drive speeds for your usage will rarely if ever matter anyway.
 
You may need a few more fans for the fractal north as it comes with only 3 front 140mm fans.

You could alternatively go aio water cooler and put it in the roof of that case.
 
 
MSI PRO X870-P WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard
MOT-MSI-03299
£230 (incl. VAT)
£210 (incl. VAT)
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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail
PRO-AMD-03517
£540 (incl. VAT)
£420 (incl. VAT)
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Arctic Liquid Freezer III PRO High Performance All In One CPU Cooler - 360mm
COO-ARC-04932
£85 (incl. VAT)
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Fractal Design North XL Charcoal Black Tempered Glass Case
CAS-FTL-02137
£170 (incl. VAT)
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Corsair Vengeance XMP/EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C28 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey
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£120 (incl. VAT)
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