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Sure is. Monkey see, monkey do.
Love Britain ? - Vote UKIP.
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Sure is. Monkey see, monkey do.
Because they lack any intelligent critical thinking and actually believe immigration is bad for our economy, the same goes for the EU
I watched Farage the other night and was quite happy with immigrants coming to this country.
UKIP along with a large amount of their supporters are a bunch of racist bigots, why would I want to align myself with that
so are a l;arge amount of supporters for nearly every party.
almost certainly more racists support labor and the conservatives because of shear numbers of followers
Because they lack any intelligent critical thinking and actually believe immigration is bad for our economy, the same goes for the EU
Obviously some actually know this isn't true but their racist hatred for johnny foreigner is such that they would rather damage our economy then see any immigrants on their
I have conflicting thoughts on that.
1 - it's not our land. Anyone should be able to live anywhere on this Earth.
2 - (1) is unrealistic. Each country can only take so many people before it all goes to ****.
3 - Let's make those 2nd and 3rd world countries better so they all don't want to live over here.
4 - (3) is unrealistic. Those 3rd world countries are corrupt as hell.
No no no, only UKIP have a misogynistic, racist, bigoted following.
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Because they lack any intelligent critical thinking and actually believe immigration is bad for our economy, the same goes for the EU
Obviously some actually know this isn't true but their racist hatred for johnny foreigner is such that they would rather damage our economy then see any immigrants on their
Ohh and the arragont bigot supports the torture of animals for fun, sounds just like the sort of chap we want running our country
You say that as though it were a fact, but I think you have to consider the situation from a perspective where it may not be a fact at all. Then what would you support?
But the reason they support them parties isn't because of their bigoted views unlike UKIP!
One only needed to watch the documentary the other day about Nigel Farrage too see his a right-wing bigot who thinks laws don't apply to him (fare dodging, smoking indoors, filming where banned ..etc).
If this arrogant **** gets into any position of power it would be terrible for this country !!
It is a fact, the figures were released ages ago clearly showing that immigrants produce a net profit towards our economy and that they claim less benefits than 'native' citizens!
Obviously so called papers like The Sun and Daily fail won't report this empirical evidence as it clearly doesn't comply with their racist hate filled agenda
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Farage is a populist without morals, his party are a joke and the amount of national and international attention he gets is distorting the political debate in the UK and beyond.
Thankfully his manipulative, nationalistic rabble rousing is why he will never be more than a protest vote. The British public are a cynical bunch and just don't go in for opportunist politicians blaming foreigners for all our problems.
That's why I love Britain, and won't vote UKIP.
If you have a real issue with the EU vote Conservative. If you like the status quo vote Labour. If you believe what UKIP tells you please just vote for the x-factor and bin your voting card when it comes. Really, please.
Thankfully his manipulative, nationalistic rabble rousing is why he will never be more than a protest vote. The British public are a cynical bunch and just don't go in for opportunist politicians blaming foreigners for all our problems.
That's why I love Britain, and won't vote UKIP.
If you have a real issue with the EU vote Conservative. If you like the status quo vote Labour. If you believe what UKIP tells you please just vote for the x-factor and bin your voting card when it comes. Really, please.
Some replies to the uneducated 'accusations'
1) ukip are not 'anti immigration' ... Ukip are anti uncontrolled immigration. There is a big difference.
2) if you don't want to vote ukip, that's fine. Our children will pay the price.
3) for those suggesting a ukip government would be worse.. I would humbly suggest you cannot know that. Its never been tested. Worse than the current mess,.... Really ?
4) ' ukip are racist'.. Is something the current regime WANT you to believe. Go to a ukip meeting to be proven wrong.
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No political bias there then......
1) ukip are not 'anti immigration' ... Ukip are anti uncontrolled immigration. There is a big difference.
2) if you don't want to vote ukip, that's fine. Our children will pay the price.
3) for those suggesting a ukip government would be worse.. I would humbly suggest you cannot know that. Its never been tested. Worse than the current mess,.... Really ?
4) ' ukip are racist'.. Is something the current regime WANT you to believe. Go to a ukip meeting to be proven wrong.
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No political bias there then......
No different then Miliband and Cameron.
We call that spin when LibLabCon do it.
We all free to vote however we like. The idea that you don't love your country if you UKIP is LibLabCon spin.
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I fail to see how either of those are even points.
I could say the same thing about any alternative party!
Nope, UKIP are just old fashioned conservatives (proper Tories) and would only exacerbate many of the issues you raise. If you want out of Europe incredibly badly then vote for them, otherwise vote for a party of the people if you care about the issues you raise.
They are a one issue party than can happily spout other rubbish becaus of that, nothing more, nothing less.
They are a one issue party than can happily spout other rubbish becaus of that, nothing more, nothing less.
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That doesnt mean anything in isolation. What benchmark are they using? What other scenario could have yielded better results without but a fraction or active selection of this migrant population.
Plus the report you read might be obsoleted due to the increase in volume of unemployed migrants now residing here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/10375358/True-scale-of-European-immigration.html
42% rise in unemployed eu citizens now in uk
cost nhs 1.5 billion alone
• 611,779 “non-active” EU migrants were living in Britain last year, up from 431,687 just six years ago. The total is equivalent to the population of Glasgow;
• The number of EU migrants coming to Britain without a job increased by 73 per cent in the three years to 2011;
• The current annual cost to the NHS of “non-active” EU migrants is estimated at £1.5 billion (€1.8 billion);
• In contrast, the estimated cost to France’s health system of “non-active” EU migrants is a fraction of that to the NHS, at just £3.4 million.
Soldato
Moradin... are you the UKIP press person or something... seriously I'd vote for the monster raving loony party before I vote for the UKIP, I've done it before when I was at uni as the only option was someone from the conservative party....who I will pretty much never vote for.
I'm still waiting for conservatives to actually do something to actually help me or my family instead of the rich people.
I'm still waiting for conservatives to actually do something to actually help me or my family instead of the rich people.
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It has been tested to a degree. UKIP secured 13 MEP seats in last european elections. These were the best people they had, most elected from strongholds. Across three years they managed to lose 6 of those seats.
Who would want the country to be run by people who can not hold on to 45% of their top members in such a short time?
Quote of Nigel himself, in the last (BBC) debate - "EU immigration has left the white working class, effectively, as an underclass". Call it slip of the tongue, call it true colours showing through, but I'm sorry fella, your party mates might be a little more closeted than most right wing parties, but they are what they are...
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