Love Britain ? - Vote UKIP.

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Not trying to derail the thread but can you guys suggest any alternative party's to look into?

I find Ukip and all the other traditional alternative party's such as the green party quite frankly a laughing stock with only singular visions and no depth or scope past their main agenda.

Honestly I find the fact that we have 3 main party's a joke as when it comes down to the bottom of it all, they are all very much the same in regards to policies/members who are there for themselves and not their constituents.

While the American system is far far from perfect (and I would hate to have the same system in Britain) at least you have two very distinct party's rather than the wishy washy fruit blender of politics we have at the moment.

I just want a party that has scope and a broad sense of direction past the "herp derp immigrants are bad" etc etc but dont want to vote for any of the 3 main ones due to the lies and slander that comes out only to make themselves look better...case in point "youth employment has risen greatly over the past year" yes because of the popularization of zero hour contracts so many people are actually in a worse off position now.

I just honestly don't know who I should give my vote to come the next election and while in a sense I feel the right thing to do would be to abstain, i would also feel I would not have the right to complain if any new policies that i disagreed with came into effect come the new government.

apologies for the rambling.
 
"herp derp immigrants are bad"
It seems many people think that UKIP wanting to control immigration = No immigration = UKIP are racist.
No wonder we are up **** creek with such great logic amongst us.
 
altus said:
"herp derp immigrants are bad"
It seems many people think that UKIP wanting to control immigration = No immigration = UKIP are racist.
No wonder we are up **** creek with such great logic amongst us.
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Sorry I should rephrase that, I was using it more as an example of the one track mind some alternatives have and was not necessarily meaning to refer to UKIP there. I see UKIP as more against the EU than anything else and yes they do have some bigots as party members but so does every other party.

I do see party's like UKIP and the BNP are generally royal members of the dailymail bandwagon though.
 
They certainly are against the EU, they have the opinion we can make our own rules and laws and mistakes, instead of being part of a federal [non democratic] setup in which we have no say in our destiny, unlike the other 3 credible voting options.
Seems the way to go to me.
 
Moradin said:
3) for those suggesting a ukip government would be worse.. I would humbly suggest you cannot know that. Its never been tested. Worse than the current mess,.... Really ?
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Have you ever dipped your balls in chili infested battery acid?
 
Why do people on here insist on trying to tell people to vote for and presenting arguments based on nothing but speculation as a reason someone should change their mind?

If someone wants to vote UKIP then it's their personal choice and has **** all to do with you.

I find it insulting when another person tries to tell me who I should be voting for.

I vote for who I think will get the best deal for people like me.

if you're earning the money I know some of you are then of course you are happy with the current government and don't want UKIP but let's not pretend its a moral decision
 
I will vote for them in the hope that they do something about this racism slander. There are a few people on here spouting out about people being racist because they mention a white underclass. So airing fears and thoughts is now racism? If i say Europe belongs to the Europeans only i am a racist. The thought police need someone to stamp them out and start handing out jail terms for libel and slander the same way people are being convicted of hate crimes. Example i had today is a poster in Belfast which was reported to the police and deemed racist by our local Chinese born MP. The police said it was not a hate crime and the little Chinese thought fascist is furious. This is what it is coming too. Having something forced down our throats and threats of silence and jail. No chance it is going to happen peacefully and especially not by the naive idiots who think there should be one world one people.




Britain could never feed her own population after the U-Boats stopped our food coming in by sea. Remember this as the golden age of a low population and with the allotment era they grew more food than at any time in British history yet they still starved. God knows what is going to happen in the coming years of a world food crisis happens or a global disaster or famine. Yet Africa is still busy having more kids than they can look after and 90% of the worlds population increase will come from them. So why should Europeans move over and give them even more room to breed? Because we need cheap labour? Yes great idea bring them in to fill a temporary role and end up with his decendants as permament resident looking for child benefit and retirement. Then go find another person to fill that role and on we go on a never ending cycle of population increases from the third world. It sounds harsh but life is harsh we squibble about giving out money to our own homeless population nevermind Africa. We are in no state to accept even a single migrant nevermind hundreds of thousands per year.


This is proven fact not scaremongering, It is mathematically sound and should not be up for discussion. It will be a cycle of reduced European ethnic populations as they will have less land in Europe to live on due to the African and Middle East immigration. Thier children will grow up on the resources of Europe not Europeans. Yet is the same true of the Middle East or Africa? How does this not qualifiy as racist?
 
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[sarcasm]against unconditional immigration? sir you are a racist bigot and should be hung drawn and quartered because I need this cheap labour or I'll have to skip one of my bi monthly foreign holidays this year.

We all know English workers are lazy anyway, just look at this ocuk lot.[/sarcasm]
 
Moradin said:
The moderator moved this to general. Instead of speakers corner...
No political bias there then......
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Your opening post was effectively a party political broadcast and was not set up to encourage debate so it wasn't a post or thread that really fits within the parameters of Speakers Corner.

I do love Britain but I really don't think that UKIP are the answer.
 
semi-pro waster said:
Your opening post was effectively a party political broadcast and was not set up to encourage debate so it wasn't a post or thread that really fits within the parameters of Speakers Corner.

I do love Britain but I really don't think that UKIP are the answer.
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Amusingly this thread has been more productive than a typical Magnolia thread.
 
arknor said:
Why do people on here insist on trying to tell people to vote for and presenting arguments based on nothing but speculation as a reason someone should change their mind?

If someone wants to vote UKIP then it's their personal choice and has **** all to do with you.

I find it insulting when another person tries to tell me who I should be voting for.

I vote for who I think will get the best deal for people like me.

if you're earning the money I know some of you are then of course you are happy with the current government and don't want UKIP but let's not pretend its a moral decision
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So it's a change for changes sake?

If you not interested in listening to people because they're well off, why listen to the privileged son of a city stock broker, who went to an expensive public school, then became a stock broker himself, and spent a large part of his life supporting the Tory party on everything except Europe?
 
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