Lowering Springs

MeEsH BaKkA said:
Well assuming you shocks are 140k old as well or near enough, mating them to stiffer springs (especially if the rears are harder than the front) then blatting round A &B roads is a sure way to end up in a ditch, backward.
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lol at this.

At the end of the day for the sake of £30 you may as well put them on and see what you think. Although changing springs can be a bit of a faf, make sure your mate is up for taking them back off :D.
 
Clarkey said:
Set up for it how? If you want to go around a corner fast then some camber is going to help improve contact patch in these situations. I'm running -2F -1.5R 0toe F+R, grips really good and doesn't have unusual shoulder wear. I've heard it bandied about that the camber will negatively affect initial turn-in, for me the steering response is very direct under all circumstances though.

You keep coming up with weak arguments as to why such modifications would be worse and definitely kill you, but people with actual experience with it say otherwise. Doesn't this tell you anything?
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Hang on a minute. You drive a chavved-up Mitsubishi Colt and you think you're in a position to lecture people here on suspension? lolwut?

Just fyi, having a shed load of camber doesn't help at all if you don't have the stiff springs and damping to back it up i.e. allow the car to actually lay weight on the suspension and tyre when cornering. Also visible camber on public roads is useless cause you can never go fast enough to lean on the suspension that much anyway. Increased camber settings also have a negative effect on braking performance.
 
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Mess it up 2 much and it will end up like my old escort cab eating through tyres at the front like they were made of cheese. The camber was comical and inside edges on tyres lasted only a few months.

basically go too low and you might need some adjustable lower arms so you can dial out the camber.
 
shoes said:
How much more tail happy? My mrs drives the car regularly and she's not one for driving pleasure.
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Only as much as if you're trying to force the back end out on a naturally understeering car like a Focus it might be a bit easier to get the back end out.

I'm running an Anglia on a home-made coilover conversion. It's about 115mm lower all round (yes, dumped) on rock hard springs. I think I did the conversion in, er, 2002. Do you think all my toe and camber angles are correct? Doubt it. It's also rwd, 140hp, has drum brakes at the back and no safety devices whatsoever. OMG deathtrap :eek:

I'm not dead like a lot of people in this thread are making out I should be. Just lower the damn car :p

Besides, despite what OcUK thinks, lower cars look better :D
 
burns said:
At the end of the day for the sake of £30 you may as well put them on and see what you think.
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Jonny69 said:
Only as much as if you're trying to force the back end out on a naturally understeering car like a Focus it might be a bit easier to get the back end out.
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Ah that's sound then, she drives very conservatively so I can't see that being a problem.

Jonny69 said:
I'm running an Anglia on a home-made coilover conversion. It's about 115mm lower all round (yes, dumped) on rock hard springs. I think I did the conversion in, er, 2002. Do you think all my toe and camber angles are correct? Doubt it. It's also rwd, 140hp, has drum brakes at the back and no safety devices whatsoever. OMG deathtrap :eek:

I'm not dead like a lot of people in this thread are making out I should be. Just lower the damn car :p

Besides, despite what OcUK thinks, lower cars look better :D
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Indeed they do, and for £30 as said above it's worth a go. Still need to win them on the bay, worryingly they've been up for six days and no interest at all. Hoping I can win them nice and cheap :)
 
NathanE said:
Hang on a minute. You drive a chavved-up Mitsubishi Colt and you think you're in a position to lecture people here on suspension? lolwut?

Just fyi, having a shed load of camber doesn't help at all if you don't have the stiff springs and damping to back it up i.e. allow the car to actually lay weight on the suspension and tyre when cornering. Also visible camber on public roads is useless cause you can never go fast enough to lean on the suspension that much anyway. Increased camber settings also have a negative effect on braking performance.
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Oh do shut up. Who is lecturing?

My car is chavved because it is lowered? Whatever :/

I think i'll be the one to judge what is and isn't better than stock, afterall I'm the one who has driven both configurations for countless thousands of miles.
You need to deal with the fact that the car is better in every respect aside from ride quality, and I don't even have Nitrons, the horror!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
NathanE said:
You drive a chavved-up Mitsubishi Colt
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Waaaaaaaa maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate!

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Clarkey said:
Oh do shut up. Who is lecturing?

My car is chavved because it is lowered? Whatever :/

I think i'll be the one to judge what is and isn't better than stock, afterall I'm the one who has driven both configurations for countless thousands of miles.
You need to deal with the fact that the car is better in every respect aside from ride quality, and I don't even have Nitrons, the horror!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And I think you need to deal with the fact that numerous people in this thread now do not agree at all with the complete and utter rubbish that you have been posting in here.

Cheap car + lowering springs + seemingly obligatory OcUK signature advertising the fact + posting rubbish on a thread about car modification + telling people to "shut up" when challenged = yes... that seems pretty chav to me. Maybe I'm reading it wrong though.
 
If being a chav means working with actual facts and real life observations, then damn, I guess I am a chav.

Who was challenged anyway? Certainly not me. All I see is a bunch of textbook warriors coming in saying this doesn't work, that doesn't work. You see I know for a fact that it does, having done the whole before and after comparison, actually driving it and feeling it, no amount of theory is going to change that.

Drop the elitest attitude too, doesn't wash with me.
 
Lower the car, really it will make the slightest difference to handling. Yes everyone is correct, about it possibly ruining the handling but unless you push your car to the limit on the track.
 
I was a chav once... it was good! I can prove this with pictures of said chav mobile!
 
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Mucky_Pup said:
My Focus handles a lot better on Eibach lowering springs, and Whiteline Anti-Roll Bars, when compared with the standard setup, and those cost less than £400.
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This really. I put a set of Eibach Pro-Kits on my 2003 hatchback and it made the ride much more enjoyable, and comfortable. Tempted by the anti-roll bars but I was under the impression they'd make little difference?

Ant :cool:
 
Yeah I am going to have to check these out more clearly. If they're simply higher in terms of spring rate I think it'll be ok, if the difference is minimal. If they're physically different sizes then that's a different matter of course.

For £30 I'll take that risk and can always punt them back on the bay if necessary.
 
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