Lucky me!

MaXxBoulton · 10 Apr 2019 at 07:12

Participant said:
Is that legal? Selling returns as new?

Nope but they do it.
If it's returned as unwanted it would be new. With a cpu it's hard to tell if it's been used or not

SpudMaster · 10 Apr 2019 at 08:48

Participant said:
Is that legal? Selling returns as new?

I'm not sure on the legalities but I worked briefly for a PC company who mainly sold full PC builds and his practice occurred all the time. Returned PC would be broke down and parts would be returned to stock for future builds.

OP was your CPU bought as part of a full build or a retail CPU?

sockky · 10 Apr 2019 at 09:12

It was purchased from OcUK on it's own as an OEM part.

I understand it's not exactly easy to tell if a CPU has been delided by someone before returning it, but it still feels a bit pants.

spolsh · 10 Apr 2019 at 11:51

MaXxBoulton said:
. With a cup it's hard to tell if it's been used or not

... Especially if it's been washed after it was used !

CuriousTomCat · 10 Apr 2019 at 12:28

Returning a CPU if you loose the silicon lottery is a disgrace. The law should be changed to allow shops to refuse. You're paying for the rated speed, not the overclock. Anything extra is a free bonus.

It's would be like returning a loosing lottery ticket. Shocking behaviour.

MaXxBoulton · 10 Apr 2019 at 19:59

CuriousTomCat said:
It's would be like returning a loosing lottery ticket. Shocking behavior.

its nothing like that at all.

CuriousTomCat said:
Returning a CPU if you loose the silicon lottery is a disgrace.

i 100% agree its a disgrace.
the problem is you can return an item as unwanted and i think it would be hard to show an item was returned for any other reason if thats what the buyer requested

Troezar · 10 Apr 2019 at 20:23

Whilst it is dishonest I don't think anything is really lost. If someone received the chip untested it would still clock the same just now there is someone else who also knows how well it clocks!

It shouldn't happen, I wouldn't like it but the only thing lost is chance and that could have gone the same way or worse. The answer is always buy retail. Only slightly more, longer warranty and you get a chance to pay more for a bad clocker

andy_mk3 · 10 Apr 2019 at 20:28

My bets would be on it being a de-lidded CPU by OCUK that got mixed in with OEM chips by accident.

MaXxBoulton · 10 Apr 2019 at 20:59

andy_mk3 said:
My bets would be on it being a de-lidded CPU by OCUK that got mixed in with OEM chips by accident.

that sounds about right. but a customer return sounds about right too.
i didnt know how big the test and return trade was until its was mentioned no here about a month ago.

Distracted · 10 Apr 2019 at 21:19

MaXxBoulton said:
that sounds about right. but a customer return sounds about right too.
i didnt know how big the test and return trade was until its was mentioned no here about a month ago.

Someone said they were buying from OCUK and returning the poor clockers?

CuriousTomCat · 10 Apr 2019 at 21:48

Troezar said:
Whilst it is dishonest I don't think anything is really lost.

It changes the odds. If for example, the chance of getting a good overclock is 7/10, enough returns could tip the balance to 6/10. So honest people loose out. Dishonest people win.

MaXxBoulton · 10 Apr 2019 at 22:00

Distracted said:
Someone said they were buying from OCUK and returning the poor clockers?

No it was a thread about buying new items that was delivered in open boxs

Troezar · 11 Apr 2019 at 05:52

CuriousTomCat said:
It changes the odds. If for example, the chance of getting a good overclock is 7/10, enough returns could tip the balance to 6/10. So honest people loose out. Dishonest people win.

They always do unless they get caught, but that's the way of the world. I'm sure honesty has always been promoted to the masses in order to keep us down. Look how many of the rich and powerful cheat the system!

Sadly life rewards winners not honesty, explains why I'm not rich lol.

Double07 · 12 Apr 2019 at 18:35

Troezar said:
They always do unless they get caught, but that's the way of the world. I'm sure honesty has always been promoted to the masses in order to keep us down. Look how many of the rich and powerful cheat the system!

Sadly life rewards winners not honesty, explains why I'm not rich lol.

But I am poor AND corrupt

Troezar · 12 Apr 2019 at 18:42

Double07 said:
But I am poor AND corrupt

Lol you obviously need some richer corrupt friends

MaXxBoulton · 12 Apr 2019 at 18:52

Double07 said:
But I am poor AND corrupt

lol, my too brother me too

Double07 · 12 Apr 2019 at 19:52

Troezar said:
Lol you obviously need some richer corrupt friends

Well I do know a couple of politicians so..................

MaXxBoulton · 12 Apr 2019 at 21:32

Double07 said:
ouple of politicians so

that's like top tier of corrupt friends

jellybeard999 · 12 Apr 2019 at 22:16

I remember buying an Athlon XP Mobile and the shop (CPU City rings a bell) listed the steppings, so you could be certain of s decent clocker

AQYHA XP 2500-M and DLT3C XP 1700+ ... Back in the days when I was heavily into overclocking. More interested in using the PC than fiddling these days

Dicehunter · 12 Apr 2019 at 23:06

Participant said:
Is that legal? Selling returns as new?

I bought a GPU a while back from OCUK, It was an Asus Matrix Platinum GTX 980 Ti, Bought brand new and the backplate had finger prints all over it, Fans full of dust and protective caps on the SLI fingers and display port taken off, It's happened a fair few times when I've bought various things from OCUK, I'm sure it's not done on purpose but still a bit disconcerting.

I returned it as I wasn't about to pay 700'ish quid for something technically second hand.