Mac users' elitism

alexakasloth · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:27

What is the mac alternative to ms office? Also, is it easy to open up text documents on the mac alternative in ms word, or open office?

dirtydog · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:27

Mr_White said:
People say you move the cursor really quickly and it jumps erratically, I did that as fast as humanly possible up and down in a straight line.

It went up and down in a straight line, that to me says anyone suffering this problem has muscle spasms and can't control their finger.

I'm a frequent member of the biggest mac forum on the internet and have never come across anyone posting this issue, which to me suggests it's been fixed or improved and all of your sources are out of date.

Name of the forum? I'd be amazed if nobody mentioned it.

Mr_White · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:29

Insanelymac.com

dirtydog · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:29

OS X and Mouse Acceleration

OS X has a real problem with mouse movements. This problem is well known, and yet Apple has not addressed this issue. I'll try to explain what the problem exactly is: when you want to go from i.e. one menu item to the other, the acceleration is way too slow, and you end up clicking the item where you left. Okay, so you try to move a little longer, but then the acceleration kicks in and you end up clicking another wrong item!

For 'overall' mouse movements, from say the top to the bottom of the screen, this is no problem. However, for smaller and more accurate movements, this is a real showstopper. Yes, I never used a mouse on OS X, other than my iBook's trackpad (which somehow doesn't have this problem), because of this.

However, there is a way to solve it, by using a 3rd party application called USB Overdrive. Tweaking with its settings can really alleviate the problem, although it never really ceases to exist. I had a faint hope that the Mighty Mouse might solve the problem. Well, it didn't. You will still need USB Overdrive, or a similar application, to make a mouse in OS X usable.

http://www.osnews.com/story.php/11558/Review-Apples-Mighty-Mouse/

dirtydog · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:31

Mr_White said:
Insanelymac.com

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...site:Insanelymac.com&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=19099
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=3835

etc etc etc...

Mr_White · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:31

Any new sources?

I have absolutely none of the issues mentioned, never have, so I don't give a ****

But you can carry on if you like.

Will_3rd · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:32

$loth said:
What is the mac alternative to ms office? Also, is it easy to open up text documents on the mac alternative in ms word, or open office?

That would be Office for Mac, plus Open Office as you suggested, plus countless other Open Office clones such as Neo Office

Yes it is a breeze in Office 2004 to edit stuff

Al Vallario · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:32

$loth said:
What is the mac alternative to ms office? Also, is it easy to open up text documents on the mac alternative in ms word, or open office?

Microsoft Office for Mac 2004 (equivalent to Office XP on Windows). It supports full inter-operation across platforms, there are no compatability issues I am aware of and the application suite as a whole seems a lot more "finished" than the Windows variation, in my opinion. It is, however, not a universal binary (and there is no intention of making it one, as far as I know), so it has to go through Rosetta and is a tad on the slow side as a result.

A new version is in the works, due for release later this year

Vai · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:33

clv101 said:
How so? Seems pretty similar to me.

The Mac version lacks some of the programs, and Outlook is replaced by Entourage, also the interface is different. Now the new version of Office is out there will be other differences, and if Office:Mac was partially linked to Office both would have had new versions released very close to each other.

dirtydog · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:34

Mr_White said:
Any new sources?

I have absolutely none of the issues mentioned, never have, so I don't give a ****

But you can carry on if you like.

How new do they have to be? :confused:

Summer 2006 too old? It's well after OS 10.4 came out.

Jet · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:34

$loth said:
What is the mac alternative to ms office? Also, is it easy to open up text documents on the mac alternative in ms word, or open office?

MS Office:Mac. It works like MS Office on Windows and opening documents is no different. They both use .doc extension. I transfer files from Uni (Windows) to my Mac and there are no problems.

Mr_White · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:35

Something after 10.4.8

To me it sounds more like a problem related to the mice, since I'm on a MacBook using a track pad and have had absolutely no problems, not in the slightest.

D.P. · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:36

When you can build and upgrade a Mac from any range of PC hardware and can install linux natively without an emulator and not pay to recieve Mac OS then I'll buy/build a Mac.

Luckily, that technology is already here, it's called a PC

Mr_White · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:36

D.P. said:
When you can build and upgrade a Mac from any range of PC hardware and can install linux natively without an emulator

Macs will boot on Linux.

Al Vallario · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:37

Mr_White said:
Something after 10.4.8

To me it sounds more like a problem related to the mice, since I'm on a MacBook using a track pad and have had absolutely no problems, not in the slightest.

It is a known problem with the operating system, don't argue with that.

The trackpad on the MacBook is great, I agree, and it took me next-to-no time to get used to that. Hook up an external mouse, though and it all goes a bit wrong

Jet · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:37

Vai said:
The Mac version lacks some of the programs, and Outlook is replaced by Entourage, also the interface is different. Now the new version of Office is out there will be other differences, and if Office:Mac was partially linked to Office both would have had new versions released very close to each other.

What programs does it lack?

Mr_White · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:38

Al Vallario said:
It is a known problem with the operating system, don't argue with that.

It's unknown to me since I've never seen anyone complaining of it or have never experienced it, so it seems like a non-issue to me.

So I don't care.

BoomAM · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:39

There is an eliteism that Mac users have over PC users. And quite frankly theres no need for it imo.
Macs are essentially the 'designer' version of a PC. The same concept as designer jeans over normal ones. Theres little to no benefit to them over normal ones, but because they have one, and have spent more on one, they asume that they are the best.
OSX isnt all its cracked up to be either. Its not as secure as Mac fanboys seem to think it is either.
Dont get me wrong, im not against Macs, i have an iBook & an iPod. But i just dont see why Macs are hailed as something that only the 'enlightened' computer users use.
Both PCs & Macs have their strengths & weaknesses. Neither is better or worse than the other. Those who think otherwise are close minded, elitest & ignorent imo.

dirtydog · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:39

Mr_White said:
Something after 10.4.8

To me it sounds more like a problem related to the mice, since I'm on a MacBook using a track pad and have had absolutely no problems, not in the slightest.

It is all USB mice that are affected, afaik

As for being after 10.4.8 - are you being deliberately obtuse for some reason? (Surely not.) Has a fix for this problem which has existed since 2001, come out in the last few months then?

Mr_White · 14 Jan 2007 at 18:42

dirtydog said:
It is all USB mice that are affected, afaik

As for being after 10.4.8 - are you being deliberately obtuse for some reason? (Surely not.) Has a fix for this problem which has existed since 2001, come out in the last few months then?

Not at all, actually that's a lie.

But it wouldn't be unlikely that god forbid, a problem would be fixed in an update.