Mac users' elitism

Jet said:
Also, it's known that 99% of Mac users don't have anti-virus, therefore the success rate would be nearly 100%. Not so on Windows computers.
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Yes, but what percentage of Windows users update their virus app's every day? If it's not up to date they might as well not have anti-virus :)
 
Mr_White said:
Oh goody, another veiled personal attack, bit of a **** aren't you.
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Erm, but he quoted you... so surely it was already a personal attack aimed at the PC users in this thread?



Smart.
 
$loth said:
That's quite funny, after all going by your judgement I could say that the mac users on that forum have had no real windows experiance.
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I've observed members on this forum, I have no idea who those other guys are, you can tell by the posting styles and general way they come across that I'm 95% sure none of them have owned a Mac, if they did they'd have at least one point in their favour.

I just love the fact that the windows users are the ones that have been the most aggressive for no reason.
 
$loth said:
Although, a little wrong ;)

A Mac user is like a middle aged man in a mid life crisis, they know they have no real use for it, yet want to look cool.
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In your opinion maybe :) Not in mine. I know plenty of people who choose Macs because they prefer them. Some prefer the looks, some the performance. As said before, I use both Mac and PC, though if I had to choose I would choose the Mac - as in my experience it's far more reliable and I prefer using it. I'm really not bothered by its appearance - the PC I have is quite nice looking, they're just different. The real winners in these situations are the ones who don't get involved in petty silly name calling and elitism, and just use the machines to their strengths - getting the best of both worlds :)
 
Mr_White said:
I don't mind slagging matches, just as long as people have real experience (read: have owned one for a reasonable amount of time) or knowledge of the subject in question.
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The problem is the number of people with in-depth and up to date knowledge of both platforms will be quite small. I see the same problem with people arguing windows vs linux, apache vs IIS etc. Most of the arguements you hear are very outdated, people often come out with facts that haven't been true for years.
 
Matt said:
Yes, but what percentage of Windows users update their virus app's every day? If it's not up to date they might as well not have anti-virus :)
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Of course. There are still reasons why OSX will still be targetted though.
 
kitten_caboodle said:
The real winners in these situations are the ones who don't get involved in petty silly name calling and elitism, and just use the machines to their strengths - getting the best of both worlds :)
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Very true, and I agree with you that they both have their strengths. But as you can see (and have experianced) the elitism is fun ;)
 
$loth said:
Very true, and I agree with you that they both have their strengths. But as you can see, all the OS X users are very lovely people, exceeding in all aspects of life, and over all are a higher class of person, I think we should all look up to them and thank them for the great things they've done for society
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Another advantage of OS X, we have an ignorance filter that turns everything we read in our favour :p :D
 
This interview with Steve Jobs pretty much started the Mac elitism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfALGcDNEDw

The sad thing is, in that awkward pause whilst he is thinking during the video, you just know he's thinking "how can I word this in such a way without letting on that I'm sore or jealous in any way?".

I know and have met many many Mac users but I can't really remember a single one that didn't go into some anti-Microsoft rant (whether full on or a slight "dig") as soon as he/she found out I didn't own a Mac. It's quite sad really. But hey, Apple was built on fanatism and that's what, ultimately, keeps them in profit. Competition is good.
 
NathanE said:
I know and have met many many Mac users but I can't really remember a single one that didn't go into some anti-Microsoft rant as soon as he/she found out I didn't own a Mac. It's quite sad really.
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You shall have to meet me then. I just love 'puters in general :D I think it's quite sad that so many PC users go up in arms against Mac users because they've seen one in a shop and think it's weird. If you've tried them out and don't like them, fair enough, but so many don't even give it a try :)
 
kitten_caboodle said:
You shall have to meet me then. I just love 'puters in general :D I think it's quite sad that so many PC users go up in arms against Mac users because they've seen one in a shop and think it's weird. If you've tried them out and don't like them, fair enough, but so many don't even give it a try :)
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I always give them a try out whenever I'm in a certain shop I won't mention. I probably look like a right noobie trying to figure out how to make it do things that I do subconciously in Windows. Shrug. Just because it's a different system that I know little about doesn't mean it's crap. If I wanted I could buy one and learn it and probably be up to speed in a month.

My only gripe with the Mac is that it doesn't have any of the software that I use on a daily basis. Vendor lock-in screws us over in all walks of life (right down to my razor blades) though so I can't hold it against Microsoft.
 
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kitten_caboodle said:
I think it's quite sad that so many PC users go up in arms against Mac users because they've seen one in a shop and think it's weird. If you've tried them out and don't like them, fair enough, but so many don't even give it a try :)
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When I first used a mac, I thought to my self.

What the hell? I can't do anything with this apart from open these big icons on a bar along the bottom, and none of them do what I want, wtf, this is crap!

*leaves*

Then went to buy one, tried OS X out again, was still pretty much the same.

Bought a black MacBook for £1028, got it home, turned it on and it was ready to go out of the box, asked my cousin who'd had a Powerbook and now a MacBook pro how to do certain things I wanted to know, after a week or so I had learnt all the little tricks etc, (although I still come across some by accident) and I was hooked, and the fact a MacBook was perfect for me made me like it even more, in the process of moving house, couldn't use my PC etc, was sick of being stuck in my chair at a desk whenever I wanted to use the PC and so on.

And now it's my main machine, I've not used my PC since a few days after I got my mac, and I was very big into PCs, spending loads of money on them, having bleeding edge spec all the time and using it 24/7, but I put my movies and music (streamed them to my MacBook from my PC via iTunes at first) on my MacBook, I was hooked and wouldn't swap it for anything, and don't for one second think it's over priced.

I don't **** PCs off though, I think OS X is better than windows once you get used to it, but I don't **** windows off.

I don't know what the point of this post is exactly, but I felt like typing something :D
 
dirtydog said:
? The cheapest Mac laptop is £749, which is around $1500 US. For that you get a 13" screen, 512MB of RAM and not even a DVD writer.
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You can pick up a 13" MacBook with 1GB RAM and a DVD writer for £799.01 with free shipping.

(Edit: Not so) Small breakdown of what you get for that price:

- 13" widescreen glossy LCD screen (1280x800). Looks amazing, dead/lazy pixels are extremely rare, widescreen is fantastic for watching video content, playing the odd game and for a general productivity boost. 13" is also the perfect portable size, imo; I wouldn't be caught dead lugging a 17" laptop around and squinting at the ridiculously high resolution, myself

- 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo chip – Great chip, more than capable of any desktop tasks thrown at it. Gaming and high performance laptops form a minute sector of the market (people who need to do such things on the move, or cannot be bothered to maintain a laptop and a desktop system) and the price premiums make them useless for your average end-user. I'd rather have a nice, fast chip which runs cool and uses as little power as possible yet is capable of playing a game or two if I feel the need

- 1GB RAM – Rather standard these days. Apple's RAM upgrade prices still carry a small profit margin, but it is much less apparent than it used to be. It's all standard stuff, anyway, and it's a walk in the park to upgrade the RAM yourself

- 60GB HDD – Perfect for my needs; my large storage requirements are already catered for elsewhere. Most people will never need more than 60GB in the lifetime of their laptop, and for those that do, upgrades are reasonably priced and external drives work an absolute dream with OS X

- Integrated WiFi (with rather impressive performance, I have found) and bluetooth connectivity, with built-in synchronisation tools for mobile phones and PDAs. Full support for WPA2 (requires a patch on Windows XP, I believe), and an integrated gigabit ethernet jack

- All the ports you could possibly need. Firewire, optical audio inputs and outputs, wonderful slot-loading DVD writer drive. Built-in speakers are great, for a laptop

- Brilliant touches such as the magsafe connector (has probably saved me upwards of £8,000 in written-off MacBooks already!), magnetic lid and "two finger" right-click. The keyboard is great to use, and doesn't take any more getting used to than any other keyboard does

- Integrated high quality webcam, with a fantastic application (Photo Booth) pre-installed for taking pictures with various effects, emailing pictures etc.

- Generally beautiful hardware. The glowing Apple on the back makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside, the screen hinge system is gorgeous, the colour is great, the ports on the side look fabulous etc.

- Great Operating System pre-installed. Setup is brutally simple and pleasurable (compare that to the archaic and plain brutal Windows XP setup process), everything looks stunning, there's no need to worry about malware/viruses. Exposé and Spotlight are brilliant little productivity-enhancers, Mail.app is more than sufficient for any home use an end-user can throw at it, Safari was lightyears ahead of IE6 and probably still superior to IE7

- iLife package pre-installed. iPhoto is a lovely application for your average hobbyist and even semi-professional photographer. iMovie HD is miles ahead of Windows Movie Maker and various other, commercial movie editing applications for Windows. Garage Band is equally fantastic for your average hobbyist or home user, iWeb is great for someone looking to throw a little website together for their friends or relatives etc.

- A thriving third party application community. AdiumX (although lacking webcam support), is vastly superior to the Windows Live Messenger client for Windows, TextMate is superb etc.

- The ability to run quite a few popular games natively (World of Warcraft, The Sims, Call of Duty, Unreal Tournament, Quake etc.), and many others by installing Windows alongside OS X

Can you find a Windows laptop that does all that for £799 and isn't going to fall apart after two hours? I couldn't, so I bought the MacBook.
 
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