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Jolteh said:
Again though, why do you care?

Who claimed that an Apple computer was unique, and why does buying one make anyone a hypocrite?

If people are happy to pay a premium for their Apple product, why don't you just leave them to it?

I'm struggling to see why PC users get their knickers in such a twist over people buying Macs, is it some sort of inferiority complex?
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You gt that completely the wring way around.

I'm calling lots of pc users hypocrites.
 
I use Microsoft OS's exclusively, it's what I've grown up with and know how to use to a good standard. Both my personal machines have SSDs and Intel i series processors so are nice and quick. For me there is no reason to pay extra for a Mac, it would be foreign to me in every way and I just don't have the need for one. All of the 'benefits' Macs offer are not beneficial to me, so what would be the point of me paying more for one? By that reasoning I can also see why people use and prefer their Macs.

However, the iPhone has no benefits that I can think of over a decent Android phone.
 
Built my own PC's for a few years until a year ago when I bought a MBP. Haven't looked back since.

No errors, no software compatability issues, no start up wait = no trouble.

Got mine from the HE store and I'd had my old laptop 3 years anyway so was due an upgrade.

Having used windows all my life and not having used Mac for a year I already prefer Mac due to the lack of hassle.
 
Isn’t it strange that whenever these threads are started, it’s always by a Windows user who is knocking Apple and Macs, it’s never the other way round.

Personally I use OS X because I like it. My original Mac Pro purchase was an almighty computer and because it was a second hand bargain, I paid far less than the Windows PC equivalent at the time. It is true that I’m going to be replacing it shortly but that’s only because the insurance are paying for it. My Mac Pro was over three years old and I had no plans to replace it for at least another three years which is something that can’t be said for a Windows PC.

For what it’s worth, my favourite version of Windows was Windows 2000. I always found it be very stable and reliable compared to the previous versions. I really didn’t like Windows XP when it was released and it’s ironic that it with that default background and major change in graphical design that it was widely known within the industry as “Fisher Price Windows” or “My First PC” especially as I’ve seen the words “Fisher Price” applied to OS X within this thread.

Last weekend I had cause to build five PCs with XP (SP3) using an installation CD downloaded from Microsoft earlier this year. Once it was patched, which was a marathon in itself, needing four or five large patch download runs the first thing I absolutely had to do was install AV. After installing and patching Office along with a couple of utilities, the system was already slower to boot than it was previously and that’s on a brand new build.

At work, I now use Windows 7 and I’m sorry but I simply don’t believe anyone who says that installing software into Windows doesn’t slow things down. I’m using a Dell E6420 laptop, less than a week old with just the OS, Office and some basic simple work tools (Citrix, VMWare, etc) that I need for my job and it’s already noticeably slower to start up than it was when it came out of the box. I do accept that Windows is generally more robust now though, BSODs used to be commonplace but I’ve not seen one for a long time.

My Mac Pro, at over three years old was genuinely as quick to use as when I bought it. In fact, subsequent OS X releases tend to get quicker so it was probably faster than when I got it.

I normally don’t post in these threads as they always start and end the same way but felt like I wanted to contribute to this one - The bottom line is that everyone is free to use what they want and I don’t understand the reason for slagging other people off for their computer choice. I’ve decided that Apple computers and OS X suit me and I have no problem with anyone who doesn’t think the same way. What I don’t appreciate is being told that I’m an idiot because of my choice. My choice is my business.
 
mrk1@1 said:
who really cares, seriously, do normal people care.......? no just a few enraged computer nerds?
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people really are still getting heated in here.

it is very easy to forget that a lot of the regular posters on here are hardware enthusiasts, whom, do not tend to be representative of the general consumer population and are overly passionate about their products of choice.

objectively apple products are great; they are simple to understand, aesthetically and ergonomically well designed and people just get them. they have a simple range and limited choice of products that will just work without fuss, which for the majority is hugely beneficial. most people I know prefer to follow rather than lead and are very happy having the choices narrowed or made for them.

on choice… over in the laptop forums, we have 'what laptop threads' and 'requests for specs varying from £300-£1500+' daily. the choice is almost endless and highly confusing, unless you know exactly what you are doing and are up to speed on all the tech. yes you can get a good machine for x budget, but unless you know what is what, it is not an easy choice. over in the apple forums the most challenging thread seems to be choosing between an MBP or MBA.

on price… apple products are, on the face of it, expensive; but it is all relative. for the money you get a high quality, simple to use product that just works out the box without the need to mod, fiddle, tweak or spend hours messing around with it.
 
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mrk1@1 said:
on price… apple products are, on the face of it, expensive; but it is all relative. for the money you get a high quality, simple to use product that just works out the box without the need to mod, fiddle, tweak or spend hours messing around with it.
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As so many others in this debate tend to do, you're looking at the initial outlay as opposed to total cost of ownership.

Apple computers tend to command a slight premium over other systems in the market, but they also command relatively high residuals. This point is especially salient at the higher end of the market.

As many on this forum will be all too aware, high-end computer hardware is a money-pit. Processors and graphics cards seemingly halve in value every 1-2 years, the price of RAM and hard drives has consistently fallen over the past few years, etc.

I can quite easily pick up a MacBook Pro for ~£800 (student discount), get two fantastic years of ownership out of it, then sell it on (while still under Apple warranty) for £600. You simply can't beat that.
 
[FnG]magnolia;20058384 said:
PC Owner : "I can't believe you prefer a Mac! The PC does this and this and this much better than a Mac!"

Mac owner : "I can't believe you prefer a PC! The Mac does this and this and this much better than a PC!"

Guy with PC and Mac : "I can watch pron on two different screens :cool: "
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I'm the guy with both :cool:
 
About a year ago I installed Windows 7, Linux and OSX on my PC.

I ran some benchmarks and Windows 7 came out ahead in pretty much all of them.
 
Al Vallario said:
As so many others in this debate tend to do, you're looking at the initial outlay as opposed to total cost of ownership.
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well for most people, the initial capital outlay is quite an important factor, as it can be a substantial barrier to purchasing in the first place. still as you will have noted, i haven't put the higher product cost as a bad thing, rather that it reflects the quality and function.

the bottom line is, i doubt the normal pc consumer will be worrying about the lower depreciation on the apple product and will just try to get the cheapest product they can which does the job. this probably means, with for example a laptop, a £399 i3 based machine from the high street becomes the weapon of choice. i suspect the average apple consumer, who can obviously afford the price, isn’t overly concerned either and buys on the products other merits which i mentioned.
 
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