JESUS WEESCOTT you got me proper working hard last night got it down the 27.688 last night, buts its on a new asus crossfire board and it doesnt clock very well, just about hit 3.1ghz, compared to my msi that once decided to overclock its self from 3.2ghz to 3.4ghz for about 8 seconds while running super pi, which i thought was cool will post my pic tonight, spent till 5:40am last night getting down into the 27second bracket, i need water cooling i think to do a bit better anyway will put my picture on tonight