I bet they did that delibberately to annoy young people too, especially young Labour voters.
Major Websites down due to cloud issue
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Never can be 100%.
Unless you have data storage in each town with super high speed internet connection for fail-over or replication then this will happen.
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Some odd issues - EE having all kinds of random problems, BT largely seems to be holding up. Some web-sites are still completely messed up. Seems to be more going on than what is being reported in the news - doesn't seem to be just one hosting/network provider having back end issues.
That's probably more a knock-on effect for some organisations aging/complex infrastructure. Root issue gets resolved, but causes a rippling effect through everything else.
Hard to tell - some of the infrastructure should in theory be discrete to Fastly, etc. but in this day and age sadly probably not as much as they should be.
The internet was supposed to be decentralised, I guess it serves them right for centralising so much of it. Massive clouds hosting countless sites and being able to terminate their customers services for wrong-think on social media is basically antithetical to what the internet was supposed to be about. But then so much of the big tech censorship and cancel culture today is antithetical to what the internet was supposed to be about, the internet wasn't supposed to be 2-3 social media platforms controlling 95% of public discourse and attacking competitors for enabling scary "free speech" that offends one or two people.
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My understanding isn't that they are hosting the sites, but they are providing protection, caching and geographical routing. The actual website will still be stored elsewhere, but since DNS will point to places like CloudFlare and Fastly, it would take 24 hours to switch back to their own hosting servers.
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Good old guru, remember it well
The problem is there are too few cloud providers. So all someone as to do is attack those providers and it takes out half the internet.
This isn't anything to do with "cloud storage". Fastly (a nice bunch of people, I have met Bergman the founder on a couple of occasions) is an edge CDN supplier. This is a content delivery network, meaning companies all over the world use them to cache images, gifs, javascript, music, movies... anything that is static. They have many physical installations all over the globe, they run their technology on top of something called Varnish (https://varnish-cache.org/). It is just a way for content to be as close to the users as possible.
If I was a betting man, a bad config got pushed to their global footprint and they simply stopped serving data. Nothing is centralised here.
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Ars has a write up on what happened: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/fast-ly-broke-the-internet-for-an-hour-this-morning/
Your right I wasn't using the correct term when I said cloud storage. As you say it is CDN suppliers. It seems from reading @peterwalkley link that it was a configuration setting failure.
Though my point still stands that these CDN suppliers are the weak link because there are so few of them, or only a few CDN are being overly used by a large percent of websites.
We need more CDN suppliers and for websites to be spread more evenly accross them.
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85% of their network taken out by a single user updating their settings and causing a software bug!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57413224
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57413224
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Is it me or is something still not right with the internet? (though I haven't got around to eliminating if it isn't yet more problems with the Firefox 89 update).
I'm getting a Cloudflare interstitial site for a brief moment on several sites where I haven't normally, some sites are still doing odd things like intermittently when you click on your account icon the list has all database variable names instead of the text names or parts of sites very slow loading in or other background active scripts don't seem to be working properly i.e. ordered something from a retailer and every time I exited the basket to look up another item it would randomise the quantities in the basket (could easily have ended up order incorrect quantities if I hadn't been paying attention) and just lots of random things like that.
I'm getting a Cloudflare interstitial site for a brief moment on several sites where I haven't normally, some sites are still doing odd things like intermittently when you click on your account icon the list has all database variable names instead of the text names or parts of sites very slow loading in or other background active scripts don't seem to be working properly i.e. ordered something from a retailer and every time I exited the basket to look up another item it would randomise the quantities in the basket (could easily have ended up order incorrect quantities if I hadn't been paying attention) and just lots of random things like that.
