Malaysian Grand Prix 2010, Sepang - Race 3/19

TaKeN said:
I can't understand why Mclaren ever put the opened for the 'F-Duct' in full view. Surely hiding it somewhere under the car would have made it more difficult for other teams to con onto their idea? :)

Todays race was interesting, plenty of overtaking. Solid results for Red Bull.. as said above if they keep that up then they're going to do very well this season.
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The problem is that McLaren are rumoured to have adjustable suspension for China. So RBR's qualifying advantage at the beginning of the season could be about to come to an end.
 
TaKeN said:
I can't understand why Mclaren ever put the opened for the 'F-Duct' in full view. Surely hiding it somewhere under the car would have made it more difficult for other teams to con onto their idea? :)
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It's where it is so that the knee can 'conveniently' disrupt the airflow at appropriate times though isn't it?

It would probably do more harm than good if it was fully active all the time even during corners etc.
 
Random question for CS|Nuts, are the Red Bull cans that are on the RBR team pit wall actually filled with Red Bull? They seem to be consistently drinking cans of Red Bull. If that were me, id be bouncing of the walls! We recon its a special batch filled with water that can be used to just keep up the corporate advertising?
 
Skeeter said:
Random question for CS|Nuts, are the Red Bull cans that are on the RBR team pit wall actually filled with Red Bull? They seem to be consistently drinking cans of Red Bull. If that were me, id be bouncing of the walls! We recon its a special batch filled with water that can be used to just keep up the corporate advertising?
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thats wierd, my mum make the exact same comment earlier so i was thinking of asking myself! :o
 
I think CSI did answer this question a while back. They are genuine cans of RedBull and those guys who are constantly drinking it, are fuelled up to the hilt with caffeine.
 
bit of a meh race for me - Well done to Red Bull fully deserved 1 - 2 (eventually :)) but they werent exactly challanged, would have made a MUCH more interesting race had the rain arrived after 50 - 1hr of the start (not too much to red flag obviously)

Not sure I agree with Hamilton's slap on the wrist (as it was down the straight) but as it doesnt really mean anything - ie not even a delayed punishment if done again - hopefully it doesnt come back to bite him

Great to see real ex-racers as stewards though - JH was always a favourite of mine when he raced all those years ago, had forgotten about that this year, at least one thing the FIA got right
 
Good race!

Anyone think that the Renault could come to be a front runner after the next few rounds of aero updates? Kubica looks solid as a rock within that team atm.
 
Probably the only reason why Hamilton didnt get a penalty was because an ex-driver was in charge of dishing out the punishments.

In the old days, when drivers were aggressive and fought hard, Hamilton would've slotted in perfectly.

Also, what is Petrov's take on it - has he complained/commented about what Hamilton did?
 
AHHHH Can't believe I slept in for this. Worth watching?

Glad to see Hamilton and Button pulled it out of the bag in the end.
 
sunama said:
Probably the only reason why Hamilton didnt get a penalty was because an ex-driver was in charge of dishing out the punishments.

In the old days, when drivers were aggressive and fought hard, Hamilton would've slotted in perfectly.

Also, what is Petrov's take on it - has he complained/commented about what Hamilton did?
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It's on Autosport now. Renault not happy it seems. Though Renault seems a bit confused about whether they're talking about braking zones or straights.

What they also don't respect is that Petrov looked dangerous. Hamilton didn't really want to be near him on the track for fear of being taken out. What is more dangerous... Petrov as-is or a little weaving from a world champion on the straight warning a rookie to go hussle someone else?
 
lol Renault want to punish Hamilton for that, when they had no penalty for race fixing by telling someone to crash, although irrelevant I think they should keep their trap shut for a little while.
 
Is it not possible to have sprinklers installed on all tracks and have them switched on for 20 minutes/GP, at a random time during each race?

The FIA have tried different techniques to make F1 more exciting, but the most obvious which has proved time and time again to produce the best races is rain...so why not artficially create wet races?
 
I dislike the idea because it's artificial, but then having mandatory pit stops by having to use both compounds is also artificial already so it's not that bad an idea.

However I wouldn't like rain every race, it'd just make it random for the sake of it, if the FIA can make the racing better from push to pass, different aero and different tyres then that would be better.

I don't think todays race was that bad though, there was some intertaining bits, but if McLaren and Ferrari didn't mess up qualifying it probably would have been dull.
 
They need to remove that tyre compound rule. They also need to up the pitlane speedlimit so that stopping doesn't cost you nearly half a minute. The limit was only ever brought in because of what happened at Imola in '94 when a couple of mechanics were hurt and the FIA thrown into panic by the loss of Ratzenberger and Senna.

Then you'll start to see some serious variation in strategy.

As with Bahrain, I haven't seen the race all the way through yet as I had something rather more important to do (involving a bow saw, a machete, and a number of trees :)). I'll watch my recording of it tonight. Looks from the result like it might not quite have matched up to Melbourne though.
 
Pretty good race considering it was dry, wouldn't have happened if Ferrari and Mclaren hadn't made a hash of qualifying.
Feel sorry for Alonso being stuck behind Massa again, he's a quick driver - he just doesn't have the aggression to overtake a car that is significantly slower. It didn't even look like he was trying :/ Alonso must have been raging over the radio.

Wish they would stop discussing different options for spicing races up, bringing back KERs, sprinklers...... Christ its bloody obvious what needs to be done yet they don't do it :/
 
PinkFloyd said:
Feel sorry for Alonso being stuck behind Massa again, he's a quick driver - he just doesn't have the aggression to overtake a car that is significantly slower. It didn't even look like he was trying :/ Alonso must have been raging over the radio.
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Alonso had a problem with his gear shifts, which meant that when down shifting into a corner he had work very hard. This compromised his race.

Alonso is indeed fast, but he also knows how to build up big WDC points totals. Don't forget that with the new regulations, attempting to overtake a car which is only 2s/lap slower than yours is not easy. Even Hamilton couldnt overtake Sutil, let alone Alonso being able to pass his team-mate (who isnt a bad driver, himself).
 
Oh yeh I realise that, but still he seemed quicker even with this problem.

My comment was more aimed at how bland Massa is on track...
 
sunama said:
Is it not possible to have sprinklers installed on all tracks and have them switched on for 20 minutes/GP, at a random time during each race?

The FIA have tried different techniques to make F1 more exciting, but the most obvious which has proved time and time again to produce the best races is rain...so why not artficially create wet races?
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What makes it exciting though is the unpredictability of the rain, teams trying to second guess when it will arrive and switch to the best strategy as soon as possible.

None of that would occur with sprinklers really, the only part it would recreate is the lack of grip but most cars would all be taking the same action at the same time.

It wouldn't be as fun having 'oh, the sprinklers are on, are they going to stay on or are they going back off in a minute' and the teams wouldn't be looking at weather data to try and take advantage they'd just be plain guessing.
 
xen_ said:
I dislike the idea because it's artificial, but then having mandatory pit stops by having to use both compounds is also artificial already so it's not that bad an idea.

However I wouldn't like rain every race, it'd just make it random for the sake of it, if the FIA can make the racing better from push to pass, different aero and different tyres then that would be better.
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I understand that it is artificial, however, I would rather have an artifical wet race, rather than an extraorindarily boring dry race. We've all seen that on a dry track, unless you are much faster than the car in front, you have virtually no chance of overtaking. And that includes Hamilton (who couldnt get past the slower Sutil).

The other way to get around this would be to reduce aerodynamic downforce and increase mechanical grip. However, as Eddie Jordan said last week, the powers that be were talking about doing just this - reduce aero and increase mechanical grip - but it never happened.

From the above, it must be concluded that the idea of reducing aerodynamic downforce simply isn't going to happen and we must accept that the dependency on aero is here to say. In fact, as we progress, the dependence on aero will increase. So, rather than get better, it is more likely to get worse.

The one external factor which always gives us a great race is water. So why not introduce this as part of every race?
 
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