Eh? He had the preferable call this race. Was on the hard tyres at the start so pulling in after 20 laps to change to the softs would have been disastrous.
Malaysian Grand Prix 2010, Sepang - Race 3/19
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Eh? He had the preferable call this race. Was on the hard tyres at the start so pulling in after 20 laps to change to the softs would have been disastrous.
Believe it or not, I'm a bigger fan of Alonso. I believe he is the best overall driver in F1, currently.
If it was all about speed and excitement, Hamilton would win hands down.
If it was about putting together a huge championship points total, I think Alonso would win. Ergo, overall, Alonso is tops.
He's out qualified and out finished him in all 3 races now hasn't he? Damn good start for Rosberg.
I still dont think he'll finish top 6, the car just isnt there. He is going to beat Schumacher over the course of the season though. Give it till after to spanish GP, if he's still in front on Schumacher then (which i think he will be) then we can consider Schumacher broken and gone for good at the end of the year (at least from a racing perspective)
Lol Nightst@lk3r is either a pathetic Hamilton hater or realy doesn't have a clue what was happening.
Anyways decent race, feel sorry for hamilton though he deserved to finish higher than he did after all the overtaking he managed to do!
Anyways decent race, feel sorry for hamilton though he deserved to finish higher than he did after all the overtaking he managed to do!
I agree. Alonso has shown awesome speed this year but the car clearly doesn't like dirty air at all. A car losing time with poor gear selection he still was impressive this race.
People saying hamilton has screwed over on strategy, are people forgetting Bridgestone have actually looked at last weeks tyres and said Macca made the correct call? They didn't make the correct call with Qually yesterday for either of their drivers.
Its not just happeneing with Hamilton though, Vettel has been let down by his team and so has Alonso both to a bigger extent than Hamilton.
Vettel should have 75 points right now. For the speed of the car I think Mclaren have done a very good job with both drivers to be in contention.
This is true. Especially of Alonso, as really Ferrari should now be telling Massa to move over if Alonso is showing himself to be significantly faster, but is stuck behind the slower car of Massa.
Vettel should have 75 points, but the team can't really do much if the car keeps breaking down. The only they might do is turn down the settings and run the car more conservatively, but as I understand it, both of the (Vettel) failures were not really down to the car being over-stressed - he (and the team), just got really unlucky.
I think Hamilton still manages to divide the fans more than any other driver in that sense - really a marmite kind of driver
.I'll admit that when he came into F1 i was excited (i'd tracked his progress since an F1 racing story about him/percieved racism in single seater racing) and knew he would be fast - but after the Hungary debacle i went right of him until last season when he and Mclaren turned the season around.
I think a lot of people dont like his personal will to win/arrogance that comes with it - but we've not seen that in F1 for a long time, drivers have had it - but not in public the way that Hamilton displays it.
Im still not tuned into his attitude at times, but boy can he drive!!
Quite enjoyed that - remember when judging this GP we have just come from a proper thriller in Australia which followed a yawnfest in Bahrain so it's always going to be difficult to form a balanced opinion.
Great start from Vettel, really made the most of that and from there on Webber never really looked a threat - any chance of an advance was killed off by that sticking wheelgun. Massive well done to CS Nuts and the guys at RBR, if they can maintain that performance and reliability throughout the season they will romp away.
McLaren did very well considering their starting positions. Button took the wrong route at the start which is what set him back compared to Hamilton. I thought he did very well to hold Alonso off for so long when Alonso was on the rampage. Good drive by Hamilton too, shame he could not beat Sutil for pace.
Unfortunate for Schumacher, thought he was going to have a solid points finish but when your back wheel falls off there isn't a lot you can do. Solid finish from Rosberg, this will really boost his confidence.
Interesting race at Ferrari. Massa was causing a bit of a train at the start, he just doesn't seem to have that "edge" when it comes to overtaking that some drivers do. Alonso was massively quicker than him again despite the obvious downshift problem. That was always going to put a lot of strain on the engine so I wasn't hugely surprised to see it let go eventually.
Solid result again for Kubica. He keeps chipping away and if he can maintain this consistency he'll be in a good position by mid-season. Petrov had some impressive scraps, he's one to watch for sure.
Williams, not a bad result at all by Hulkenberg, had a good few scraps. Shame Rubens had an issue at the start (is it just me or does he have a lot of those?)
Force India strong again and at last a bit of luck for Sutil in a good points finish. Liuzzi looked to be doing well too until his terminal mechanical issues
Good day for Toro Rosso too, holding back the Ferraris, and a great and mature drive by Alguersari with some excellent moves. I can see him eclipsing Buemi by the end of the year.
One to forget for Sauber with those 2 engine failures
Huge well done to HRT, Virgin and Lotus for all getting cars to the finish.
Good dry race, some bizarre comments in this thread as usual - Hamilton deserving a black flag, Hamilton screwed by the team, Alonso scared of being shunted off by Button, Button "awful" drive etc etc
Do some of you lot watch a different race series to the rest of us
Great start from Vettel, really made the most of that and from there on Webber never really looked a threat - any chance of an advance was killed off by that sticking wheelgun. Massive well done to CS Nuts and the guys at RBR, if they can maintain that performance and reliability throughout the season they will romp away.
McLaren did very well considering their starting positions. Button took the wrong route at the start which is what set him back compared to Hamilton. I thought he did very well to hold Alonso off for so long when Alonso was on the rampage. Good drive by Hamilton too, shame he could not beat Sutil for pace.
Unfortunate for Schumacher, thought he was going to have a solid points finish but when your back wheel falls off there isn't a lot you can do. Solid finish from Rosberg, this will really boost his confidence.
Interesting race at Ferrari. Massa was causing a bit of a train at the start, he just doesn't seem to have that "edge" when it comes to overtaking that some drivers do. Alonso was massively quicker than him again despite the obvious downshift problem. That was always going to put a lot of strain on the engine so I wasn't hugely surprised to see it let go eventually.
Solid result again for Kubica. He keeps chipping away and if he can maintain this consistency he'll be in a good position by mid-season. Petrov had some impressive scraps, he's one to watch for sure.
Williams, not a bad result at all by Hulkenberg, had a good few scraps. Shame Rubens had an issue at the start (is it just me or does he have a lot of those?)
Force India strong again and at last a bit of luck for Sutil in a good points finish. Liuzzi looked to be doing well too until his terminal mechanical issues
Good day for Toro Rosso too, holding back the Ferraris, and a great and mature drive by Alguersari with some excellent moves. I can see him eclipsing Buemi by the end of the year.
One to forget for Sauber with those 2 engine failures
Huge well done to HRT, Virgin and Lotus for all getting cars to the finish.
Good dry race, some bizarre comments in this thread as usual - Hamilton deserving a black flag, Hamilton screwed by the team, Alonso scared of being shunted off by Button, Button "awful" drive etc etc
Do some of you lot watch a different race series to the rest of us
Its not that just just faster than massa he's another planet faster. People keep focusing on MS's lack of speed in relation to his team mate but Massa is further off Alonsos race pace than anyone else on the grid.
I understand why massa isn't moving aside but it's costing the team points.
Alonso has been able to be so much faster even in a broken car than massa, this is in a team he's just joined in a car not designed around him with limited testing mileage.
I've never been a big fan of Alonso for his personality but in speed terms, consistency and ability to adapt he's as good as I've ever seen.
I think the cracks are staring to show in Schumacher, he didn't look comfortable in the interveiw pre-race with JH in that tower.
I'm begining to wonder if he will finish the season.
Anyway, 2nd half of the race was boring again today, as much as I like f1 I started to wonder off, it needed rain to spice it up again, even with half the top drivers at the back.
I'm begining to wonder if he will finish the season.
Anyway, 2nd half of the race was boring again today, as much as I like f1 I started to wonder off, it needed rain to spice it up again, even with half the top drivers at the back.
Highlights - Malaysian Grand Prix
Sebastian Vettel leads home a Red Bull one-two as the Milton Keynes-based team overcome their reliability issues to win the Malaysian Grand Prix.
Malaysian GP - Top three drivers
Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel gives his reaction to winning the Malaysian Grand Prix ahead of team-mate Mark Webber and Mercedes GP's Nico Rosberg.
Hamilton and Button happy with positive drives
McLaren drivers Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button are pleased with the way they managed to overcome starting positions down the field, to finish the Malaysian Grand Prix in sixth and eighth respectively.
I'm the same but I think mclaren explained it well when they said Lewis is a product of mclaren that has had nothing but the best since they started grooming him. He had never had to get used to 2nd best or failures compared to the rest of the kids that turn up.
I think that makes it easier to understand why he's a petulant whinging arse sometimes.
Decent race, there was a few nice scraps to watch. Hamiltons start was impressive and he made up a lot of places, it's a shame for him it didn't rain really as he could have had a good advantage from staying out so long before the pit stop and he wouldn't of had to use the other compound. It's funny how people love to come and **** off Hamilton for a minor thing, makes it funnier when people miss the point completely, no one was so harsh to Massa last week and Webber only got a reprimand for actually taking someone off the track, so black flagging him would have been silly, to suggest that you must have a real dislike for Hamilton to make you that biased. If weaving is the only issue then why not also black flag petrov for weaving equally? 
It's good to see Rosberg doing good, all the mention has just been about him beating Schumacher, but the point that should be mentioned instead is the decent points he has been bringing in every race putting him right up there in the championship standings with the drivers who have won races so far but have had erratic finishes for whatever reasons. Kubica is also doing very well for himself so far.
It's not looking good for Ferrari though, reliablity has probably been a bigger issue for them then even Redbull, and it will make the rest of the season difficult particularly for Alonso to make the engines last.
It's going to be tough for anyone to touch Redbull soon by the looks of things, they were very fast today and Webbers fastest lap shows how much faster they could have been if they wanted to, if they didn't back off to save the engines.
It's good to see Rosberg doing good, all the mention has just been about him beating Schumacher, but the point that should be mentioned instead is the decent points he has been bringing in every race putting him right up there in the championship standings with the drivers who have won races so far but have had erratic finishes for whatever reasons. Kubica is also doing very well for himself so far.
It's not looking good for Ferrari though, reliablity has probably been a bigger issue for them then even Redbull, and it will make the rest of the season difficult particularly for Alonso to make the engines last.
It's going to be tough for anyone to touch Redbull soon by the looks of things, they were very fast today and Webbers fastest lap shows how much faster they could have been if they wanted to, if they didn't back off to save the engines.
Thats funny. Though I suspect that you don't like Massa which is why you are giving him a hard time. Alonso is faster - we all knew this would be the case - but not that much faster where Ferrari should give Massa an automatic "mover-over-order". Obviously this has to be discussed within the team, but RedBull are alarmingly fast and if Ferrari are going to win the title this year, they have to put Vettel under pressure.
Right now we know that the RedBulls are fragile; even if Ferrari can't get in front of Vettel, they have to force Vettel to drive that RedBull car hard to force a retirement. By having Alonso follow the slower Massa, they are allowing Vettel to drive without any pressure.
3 Ferrari engine failures today.
1 Ferrari gearbox failure today.
That makes 5 Ferrari engines in total this year so far.
Red Bull isn't the only team with reliability concerns.
Well not the greatest race for mclaren but both came home in the points and the at times was promising even if the results didnt show it.
As usual some great moves from hamilton even if the morons at planetf1 cant tell the difference between blocking and just being a bit of a git. Shame his end result didnt show how well he raced at the beginning.
Doesnt alonso now have to use his remaining engines for 3 races apiece?
As usual some great moves from hamilton even if the morons at planetf1 cant tell the difference between blocking and just being a bit of a git. Shame his end result didnt show how well he raced at the beginning.
Doesnt alonso now have to use his remaining engines for 3 races apiece?