Man sues Oxford for 'only' getting a 2:1...

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The guy was a trainee at Clifford Chance... then he was let go. He worked for a bit as a tax consultant at E&Y... then let go from there too. So he blatantly still had the opportunities regardless of him getting a 2:1 rather than a 1st - if he's trying to blame his lack of success on depression etc.. then fair enough/whatever but to try and boil that depression down to a single event/result in his life is ridiculous.

You can't sue your depression for 1mill.

Come to that he probably can't sue Oxford University for 1m either but it's more realistic than suing yourself.
 
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People still think a degree is a way to automatically get a high paid job, nope. Not unless your one of the Eton boys.

Unless it's something that absolutely requires a degree, like a doctor, you'll be trumped by people with no qualifications but loads of on-the-job experience these days.
 
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People still think a degree is a way to automatically get a high paid job, nope. Not unless your one of the Eton boys.

Unless it's something that absolutely requires a degree, like a doctor, you'll be trumped by people with no qualifications but loads of on-the-job experience these days.

He wanted to be a barrister or a city lawyer. Both jobs require a good degree. Someone with a 2:1 - even from Oxford - would struggle to to get their foot in the door to become a barrister at a respected chambers.

Good luck earning as much as a tax barrister or a magic circle partner without a degree, no matter how much experience you have. :)
 
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Did he do the modern history course as a part of his law course or have I missed something? I can't understand how you could blame the university for not getting good enough grade, if you don't think you get enough teaching from them you gotta do something yourself about it wouldn't you? And for someone who hasn't been in the UK schooling system, what exactly does a 2:1 mean? And what is better?
 
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Did he do the modern history course as a part of his law course or have I missed something? I can't understand how you could blame the university for not getting good enough grade, if you don't think you get enough teaching from them you gotta do something yourself about it wouldn't you? And for someone who hasn't been in the UK schooling system, what exactly does a 2:1 mean? And what is better?

1st (First class)
2.1 (Upper second class)
2.2 (Lower second class)
3rd (Third class)
 
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1st (First class)
2.1 (Upper second class)
2.2 (Lower second class)
3rd (Third class)

those are all 'with honours' there is also a pass, non honours degree for people who fail a couple of modules

Did he do the modern history course as a part of his law course or have I missed something?

you don't need a law undergraduate degree - history is common enough, you can then do a 1 year conversion course and the LPC
 
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What is the LPC? Sorry for all the questions but the UK schooling system can be very very confusing for people who hasn't gone through it :D

"legal practice course" it is a 1 year course aspiring solicitors take before starting a training contract with a law firm, it comes after taking an undergrad law degree (LLB) or some other undergrad degree (such as History) + a law conversion course.
 
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Ah ok. Because back home in Sweden you have to do a five year law degree to become lawyer/barrister/solicitor or whatever title it is. And don't think training contracts like that exists either.
 
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Building surveyor here - couldnt possibly do it without a degree behind me. There is just too much to know and I’m still going to be learning all my life!
 
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My sister who is a Partner in a top London law firm, is one of the rare few who didn't go to Oxford / Cambridge in the company. Because the pool of graduates is so competitive, she would always advise to be a specialist in an area of law rather than just take a law degree, hence why people do history, language, science degrees etc and then move onto an LPC.
 
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Oh I believe that. I used to work with a guy in IT who did a sports degree. What sports has to do with IT is beyond me.

In IT experience is everything, most don't care about qualifications because theres just too much to learn. Experience and trust is everything. No one wants some newly qualified guy tinkering with their servers and taking their entire company offline :p

You'll see every good IT job wants a minimum of 3-5 years experience. They list the areas they want people knowledgeable in and often don't even list any qualification requirements. Even for programming, you'll need to demonstrate your ability in the interview usually.
 
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At my Uni they had to allocate grades, ie the whole class couldn't get 1:1s. It was all proportional. Which is stupid as ****.

Mine was the same but there also wasn't a set boundary. You could get a higher average mark than someone yet still get a lower classification than someone. They clearly took other points in to consideration.
 
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