Manchester Vs Birmingham

Isn't there a joke about that?

Manc, brummie and scouser are sitting in the pub discussing which is England's second city. Brummie states his case that Englands second city is obviously Birmingham. Manc does similar for Manchester but neither of them can agree so they turn and ask the scouser what he thinks is the second city and he responds "England's 'second city', that's London isn't it?".
 
NVP said:
No way! He's a brummie! Wifey's from perry barr, nice ish part of brum. We're now in Solihull but way to many snobs here for my liking :(
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I lived in Perry Barr as a student - nice it is not, or at least wasnt last time I was there!

Only place in the UK I have truly feared for my life was when I used to finish shifts at 2am in Small Heath and had to walk home.

Overall though I would move back to Birmingham without a second thought, like anywhere it has spots you should avoid, buts it's cheap to live in, there's a lot to do and it's well sited in terms of rail and motorways for getting to a lot of different places.

Don't like Manchester that much, good music scene but not as good as Brum IMO, but it's to far north and it rains a lot.
 
Lopéz said:
I have spent an equal time in both and prefer Manchester overall.

If I had to choose a Northern city though, it would be Newcastle. Effectively lived there for 9 months and really enjoyed it.
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I'd have to agree with this, i think Newcastle is Englands best looking city, it's a great place to visit, it is my favourite place in UK and if i ever move back to England, it will be to here.
 
Of course Manchester isn't the second city. You wanna know why? Because Manchester is the ******* Capital :D :D London can **** off :p


But seriously, loved on the outskirts of Birmingham birth-9, then moved to Manchester (now 25 and just moved to Southampton) I'd say Manchester is far far better but equally I can't say i have enough experience of B'ham to have any credibility.
 
Before judging which city is bigger, you'd have to define the boundaries of the city and that's usually quite arbitrary. I noticed a map on page 1 that included Liverpool as part of Manchester. If the boundary is drawn that far out I think a renaming would be in order, but it does show that city borders aren't necessarily based on anything real. If urban areas spread to the point of merging, are they seperate or not?

Anyway, Stoke-on-Trent is the second city because it stands out more. Like a turd on a wedding cake :) A city so derelict that the city centre was used for a post-apocalypse decayed urban hellhole in a film because the filmmakers wouldn't have to do any work on it to make it a usable set for that purpose.
 
wez130 said:
I'd have to agree with this, i think Newcastle is Englands best looking city, it's a great place to visit, it is my favourite place in UK and if i ever move back to England, it will be to here.
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I would happily move to Newcastle, I will definitely consider it when I'm done with work travelling.
 
Surely Glasgow is far better than both? :p. I live near Birmingham (in fact a circa 30min train journey, but rarely visit it.)
 
Birmingham has changed massively in the last 10 years. It’s a genuinely great place to live and work with a friendly cosmopolitan population. It’s a big city so has problem areas, but which city doesn’t? Birmingham has a great food scene and loads of amazing pubs.

Not had enough experience of Manchester to properly comment.

The only thing that really matters is how many John Lewis’s a city has:
Birmingham 2 vs 1 Manchester.
 
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