Manhunt 2 illegal

Phnom_Penh said:
not really evidence is it? :p

DampCat said:
I have no research.

you can read the rest of that paragaph for yourself. It just up the page a bit. Especially the bit at the end.

squiffy said:
Why not? Do you really think those people pushing for banned games won't stop at other titles?

They probably wont, but lets be honest, Rockstar deleiberately push the bounderies of extremity, which is how the get hype for their games. I personally dont have a problem with the games. I love GTA and Canis Canum Edit was a lark. I do think Manhunt and Manhunt 2 are a little bit overthetop.

BBFC are probably just making an example or Manhunt because of its extreme content and its *incorrect* (yes i know it was disproven) links to that murder case.

Eastenders is hardly pushing the limits now is it.
 
I'd like to know what influenced people before film, TV and gaming were invented. Like back in the 17th Century for example, what excuses for random acts of personal violence were bandied about then?
 
I wonder if there's an alternative/reverse effect to this so-called music/movie/video game induced violence in people.

If I was to go play something like Hello Kitty Island Adventure, would I immediately feel the urge to put a red ribbon in my hair and start acting like a cat?
 
Pixel said:
I wonder if there's an alternative/reverse effect to this so-called music/movie/video game induced violence in people.

If I was to go play something like Hello Kitty Island Adventure, would I immediately feel the urge to put a red ribbon in my hair and start acting like a cat?
one word cosplay, the japanese do it :p
In the 17th century the world was much worse than it is today, at least coloured people and women have respect now.
 
banning something removed all controls the government have/had
if you make it an 18 and properly enforced the rules on that then it wouldn't be an issue.

also love the way that some game stores (online) still have it listed for release
 
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Down1oader said:
Like i said before, i give up. Just want to point out we are influenced daily in everyday life by everything, fashion/news/entertainment you can control it to a certain extent but not fully. If guns started being glorified in the uk im sure more people would buy them but they are not, as a result general public opinion is against them.

Someone unstable enough to go out killing after playing a game should have already been identified and be in a mental institution or receiving close supervision.
So no its not about letting these people getting hold of the game because they would not be allowed out by them selfs in the first place.
 
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DampCat said:
almost fell victim to my own complaints there! i left this bit out. I'll reply for continuity's sake.



No. You are right. it probably wont. But banning that game from the general public will help stop THOSE sick people getting there hands on it. And that will at least be seen as a step in the right direction.

It will never be a perfect world. There will always be murder and killing and war. Some call it human nature. But we dont need to encourage it any more than we already do.

As i said, you cannot remove these people from society, it's almost impossible to police a society of people. The only way of doing it is to restrict that society's access to certain things. Drugs. Guns. Alcohol. no one can stop a 16 year old doing coke, but you can make that drug much harder to get hold of, and you cant deny that there are a lot fewer smacked up 16 year olds than there would be if it was sold in Woolworths for general consumption.

Like it was said in a famous film, The People are the Mob. You cant please all of them, but you have to adhere to what is "The Greater Good". If the government did nothing about games like these then what would happen? Parents, Christians, Schoolteachers and do-good-ers the world over would erupt in anger. Ok there probably wouldnt be riots but lots of people would be cheesed off.

The game has been banned and parents all over the country can be heard exhaling an enormous sigh of relief. But we all know that the game will still find its way to our bedrooms. Illegally, legally, downloaded, imported... whatever.

The BBFC did the "right" thing and the -majority- of people were happy with that. We know that gamers are still a minority as the elders of society and government are not part of that generation. We saw the same thing in the 70's and 80's when they banned films. As society has progressed, films are not being banned anymore. The same will happen with games, but right now we're not at that stage.

Sorry about the anger.
Amongst all this rubbish you are talking, you still haven't pointed towards any evidence that there is a link between video games and real life murders. As Psymonkee pointed out, any connection between the teenage murderer from a few years ago and Manhunt was dismissed.
 
Pixel said:
I wonder if there's an alternative/reverse effect to this so-called music/movie/video game induced violence in people.

If I was to go play something like Hello Kitty Island Adventure, would I immediately feel the urge to put a red ribbon in my hair and start acting like a cat?

*thinks of pac-man game*
;)
 
weringo said:
Amongst all this rubbish you are talking, you still haven't pointed towards any evidence that there is a link between video games and real life murders. As Psymonkee pointed out, any connection between the teenage murderer from a few years ago and Manhunt was dismissed.

I've already answered that in one of my multiple posts that are not based upon opinion.

When you've replied with something coherent and relevant and actually considered my statements rather than automatically dismiss them since you clearly dont like me, the i'll be willing to listen to what you have to say. So far you haven't managed to once prove me wrong or point out any reason why i might be misinformed or incorrect, and instead can only cry out for proof of my allegations. Amusingly about the whole thing, exactly what is it that i need to proof? The link between videogames and violence? Ok.

Firegod said:
You need violent games to channel and vent your emotions, it's a good way to release stress or anger.
 
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Dampcat, youve made your points which some of us agree with. People in here are now just making you repeat youself, its not worth the effort. Just let them cling to the opinions theyve made :p I always get more frustrated the more i argue the same point (by repeating the same valid argument which gets shot down) and i can see you are too!
 
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