Manly power tool stuff, Grrr...

BigglesPiP said:
Get one with a chuck key.
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Err no, she should buy one with keyless chuck, and adjustable torque settings, forward and reverse, with variable speed. These are all standard features on the sort of drills we're talking bout here. (sub £50 for occasional diy)

If he really needs more power you can get corded hammer drills with a chuck key for less than £20. That would be fine for his uses.
 
dewalt , makita, the heavy duty bosch stuff if hes going to be using them often or just get him a plain bosch drill if its now and again thing hes doing.
 
whitecrook said:
Err no, she should buy one with keyless chuck, and adjustable torque settings, forward and reverse, with variable speed. These are all standard features on the sort of drills we're talking bout here. (sub £50 for occasional diy)

If he really needs more power you can get corded hammer drills with a chuck key for less than £20. That would be fine for his uses.
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key-less chucks are ****, FACT!

I've never used one which can hold the bit still, and when I finally finish the job complaining all the way about the bit slipping, I need a hammer and centre-punch to get the damn thing open again.

Chuck keys are quicker, hold tighter, and last longer.
 
BigglesPiP said:
key-less chucks are ****, FACT!

I've never used one which can hold the bit still, and when I finally finish the job complaining all the way about the bit slipping, I need a hammer and centre-punch to get the damn thing open again.

Chuck keys are quicker, hold tighter, and last longer.
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your doing it wrong
 
BigglesPiP said:
key-less chucks are ****, FACT!


Chuck keys are quicker, hold tighter, and last longer.
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How long has it been since you used a keyless chuck drill? are you talking about 240v high speed drills or something.

I've been using keyless chucks for years day-in day-out, with stuff like 32mm flat bits and huge auger bits and I never have any problems. The only one that slips on me is my little 12v makita drill but it can't handle much.

For DIY use I wouldn't bother with a makita or Dewalt drills, besides you won't get one for £50. When it comes to cordless power tools you pay for the battery rather than the drill. I got my dad a Erbauer 14.4v combi drill a while back for £55, does the DIY stuff fine. It comes with two 2.0ah batteries which is good for the price. Doubt your dad will need anything more powerful, if he does then he needs a bigger budget :)
 
Lopéz said:
The problem with the internet in general is that if you ask someone to spec you a "half decent" drill you will get reply after reply telling you that you must spend at LEAST ten billion pounds on industrial strengh trade quality items.

This goes for everything, from drills to cars to houses.
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Glad i am not the only one who gets wound up by this. As long as she is aware that a £50 cordless is not going to be powerful enough for masonry work then there is loads of choice.

Personally though, i would stick with a corded drill at this budget, unless you KNOW that he doesnt want to use it for anything other than driving and light drilling. I had a cheap one first, then ended up getting a higher end model for masonry, it works wonderfully as i use the cheaper one as a driver to avoid having to swap bits all the time.
 
mr jamez said:
How long has it been since you used a keyless chuck drill? are you talking about 240v high speed drills or something.

I've been using keyless chucks for years day-in day-out, with stuff like 32mm flat bits and huge auger bits and I never have any problems. The only one that slips on me is my little 12v makita drill but it can't handle much.

For DIY use I wouldn't bother with a makita or Dewalt drills, besides you won't get one for £50. When it comes to cordless power tools you pay for the battery rather than the drill. I got my dad a Erbauer 14.4v combi drill a while back for £55, does the DIY stuff fine. It comes with two 2.0ah batteries which is good for the price. Doubt your dad will need anything more powerful, if he does then he needs a bigger budget :)
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So expensive key-less chucks work, this is a thread for a cheap drill. Well, cheap as trade stuff goes.
 
schizo220168 said:
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/68747...lls/Makita-8391DWPE3-18V-Combi-Drill?ts=73505
ive got this and its superb.
come's with 3 batteries and a hard case.
cant fault it one bit.
spend the extra nifty and get something decent.
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Yes, but for that price you can get 4 cheap drills to use. As someone mentioned, it's the batteries that are the important things in this case. Without regular use, the batteries will die. That drill with the 3 batteries is for someone who is gonna pound that drill. Think studding work etc, hundreds of screws etc.

Really would be better off with 4x £25 drills bought over the course of a few years IMO.

As well as the battery you gotta think about the bits which are actually driving the screws/drilling the holes, they can make the world of difference. Think of a crap kitchen knife versus a decent blade...


<edit> screwfix have shrunk their range in recent years, but they do a £20 quid corded drill for the heavier stuff, and a £25 cordless for the lighter stuff (only one batt though) that is what I would recommend the OP.. But try to find one with 2 batts, makes life easier as you shouldn't have to ever wait for a batt to charge then.)
 
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For that money I would be buying a bosch 14 or 18v drill/driver. Every now and then there are deals to be had on them. Wickes were doing the PSR18 with 2 batteries for £49 about a month ago on a weekend special. You dont need to get a really high voltage drill as the batteries become rather weighty and it makes the tool uncomfotable to use for long periods unless of course your dad is going to be using it for a lot of heavy work rather than just drilling a few holes and screwing in screws etc.

http://www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wc...H&c_1=1|cat_10308128|DIY+power+tools|10569477

Thats the drill I have and it works really well, if you want a fast charger for it you can pick them up of the auction site for about £15. We use Bosch GSR drills and Makita drills at work and they are used 24/7 and the batteries wear out way before the drills ever do.

For info DeWalt are an arm of Black and Decker and are good tools but no better than Makita, Bosch etc. They were launched in the late 80sish as the pro end of black and decker, they didnt take off so the range was withdrawn. They then decided to launch them in the states and gave away millions of pounds worth of equipment so they would be seen(they were also used on many american TV programs). It worked and within two years they made the money back from the giveaway. Then they brought the range back into the UK with everyone thinking its a high end American make.
 
One of these should do the trick...

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R5Rich said:
You have just proved PC geeks dont know about tools ;)

Makita or bosch are decent.
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Black & Decker & Bosch are on equal terms and always have been.
They have both made similar tools for decades using the same suppliers and techniques.
Black & Decker have the idea first and Bosch copy.
I have still working B&D & Bosch tools that I bought in 1980 and still use regulary.
 
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