Manly power tool stuff, Grrr...

Black and decker is ok but I wouldnt say their stuff is on par with Bosch tools. Black and decker is an home diy tool(used to be the budget end of diy before the new wave of really cheap tools turned up a few years ago) where bosch are a premium brand, normally with a price to match. Thats why they released dewalt to try and get into the premium tool sector.
 
Gonna struggle I think getting a decent one for £50. Please whatever you do don't buy one of B&Q's cheapy make ones, they are terrible, go for a reputable brand at least like Bosch, De Walt & Makita.

But I guess if he isn't doing major masonry work etc a nice £50-£70 one from B&Q will suffice, just obviously depends on what it's going to be used for as to how useful it will be. Dad's got a Black and Decker one that he's had for god knows how long, cost him a pretty penny back in the day and it only packed in a couple weeks back, we were ok though as my brothers got a monster Makita one. Its definately worth spending a bit of money on one as they are tools that in my opinion should last most of your life.
 
Dandle said:
Black and decker is ok but I wouldnt say their stuff is on par with Bosch tools. Black and decker is an home diy tool(used to be the budget end of diy before the new wave of really cheap tools turned up a few years ago) where bosch are a premium brand, normally with a price to match. Thats why they released dewalt to try and get into the premium tool sector.
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For decades both companies have had similary priced products on a par with each other.
For decades WHICH magazine also had test results where both companies were similary matched.
Both companies decided to make a more professional range to compete with the big boys.
 
dmpoole said:
Black & Decker & Bosch are on equal terms and always have been.
They have both made similar tools for decades using the same suppliers and techniques.
Black & Decker have the idea first and Bosch copy.
I have still working B&D & Bosch tools that I bought in 1980 and still use regulary.
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Heard the saying "dont make them like they use too"?

Makita are awesome tools though long lasting and will take a hammering same goes for dewalt. Bosch are proberly the cheaper out of the lot but I dont generaly buy powertools.
 
You expect a forum full of nerds to know about power tools? I think the furthest it stretches on here is a static wristband and a small screw driver.

What we can however do is take one you suggest, run it through numerous price search engines then debate upon its power usage, power and sustainability based on the materials used in it's creation.
 
R5Rich said:
Heard the saying "dont make them like they use too"?

Makita are awesome tools though long lasting and will take a hammering same goes for dewalt. Bosch are proberly the cheaper out of the lot but I dont generaly buy powertools.
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I worked at Creda/Hotpoint/Indesit for 27 years as the Quality Audit Technician so I know all about "Don't make them like they used to".

The fact is that B&D and Bosch are on equal quality price wise.
Somebody has already mentioned that B&D make De Walt which is supposed to be one of the best.
My power drill of choice is an absolutely wonderful KRESS which cost me £200 about 5 years ago.
Never heard of them? - they make all the power tools for Makita.

When you go into companies deeper you'd be surprised who makes what and who for and its quite funny when somebody slags one manufacturer off but rates another one who are the same.
eg I've heard many people over the years **** Hotpoint but then go and rate Creda products (or vice versa).
The silly sausages obviously don't know they're made by the very same people with exactly the same parts.
 
dmpoole said:
For decades both companies have had similary priced products on a par with each other.
For decades WHICH magazine also had test results where both companies were similary matched.
Both companies decided to make a more professional range to compete with the big boys.
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Thats not quite right. Bosch always did professional tools and didnt really have anything in the cheaper end of the market which is why they came out with the green tools to capture that market(with blue remaining the pro end). Black and decker didn't have anything in the professional end of the market to compete with bosch and makita thats why they tried to launch dewalt in the late 80s early 90s, then relaunched it a few years later after the first flop.
 
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