Mansell is spot on

Skeeter said:
You can't simply 'remove DRS'. You have to replace it with a better solution to the problem it solves, I.e. the problem of following a car.

Just dropping DRS and doing nothing else will just turn all F1 races into processions.
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I didn't say 'remove DRS' - I just stated why imo it sucks.
 
Didn't Mansell do very well out of active suspension, traction control, anti-lock brakes, semi-automatic sequential gearboxes, and blown diffusers in his driving era? It's not like Mansell's era wasn't giving the drivers as much help as the rules allowed. No team wants to produce a car that's impossible to control or will kill you if you make a small mistake.
 
I say remove drs. Would rather see fewer but true overtakes than these rubbish ones. Where often drivers could try an overtake but just wait for drs.

It's easy to clean the air up. Just restrict aero far more. Do we really need 20 odd winglets on the front wing for example.

And as point out rofl at Mansell.

There's also some extremely easy things they can do to improve f1. Get rid of starting on qualifying tyres and get rid of using both compounds.

Sauber would do better often with their long runs if the didn't have to run the softer compound.
 
Mansell won the title with all of those things, but without them he was cruelly unlucky not to win it in 1986 and possibly 1987 too.

I'm guessing he wasn't a fan of the aids, as most with drivers, but just as the Mercedes drivers will be the least vocal about the current state of F1, Mansell and Patrese (and Prost and Hill) would have been then.
 
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If you don't want them to save tires, make tires that last several races.
If you don't want them to save fuel make them have a minimum fuel of which is enough to go flat out over race distance.
If you don't want them to save brakes, force bigger brakes.

I would ask for simpler aero and improve mechanical grip.
 
utajoker said:
I would ask for simpler aero and improve mechanical grip.
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This is the answer. It has always been the answer. It will always be the answer. Yet the FIA will always ignore it :(

Fat tyres, wide cars, elements of ground effect allowed, simple front wings, tyre strategy freedom. Almost every single suggestion fans have includes some or all of these.

The bitching about saving this or managing that is quite frankly a non issue. Its a side act to the main problem F1 has, which is that catching someone is more detrimental to your race than not. How utterly backwards is it that the best race strategy is to try to avoid trying to overtake someone :confused:!?
 
They did that in 2009. Looks how basic the cars looked until they just developed them massively again. Another aero cut is needed. Wider tyres would be good but rather not have wider cars overall.

Giving any freedom on tyres or fuel will mix things up for a while until the teams find the optimum strategy, just like they did when Pirelli were told to produce cheese tyres. The teams took about 6 months to get used to them and set the car/chassis up to manage them easier so you don't get Vettel suddenly going off the cliff :)
 
The one thing I hate at the moment, is fuel saving.

They all drive flat out for the first 5 laps, cruise around saving fuel and tyres, than race again at the end.

What other motorsport limits fuel?

It's like having a horse race without feeding the horses beforehand.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Mansell, 61, says it is time to "let the drivers drive and race like we did" in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

Someone needs to remind him how advanced his car was in 1992. I agree it's too easy that's why the age and experience required is getting less and less but he couldn't have had a bigger time and technology advantage.
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This was mansell winning in the only care with active suspension, which they subsequently banned.
What aids specifically does he mean?
Engine modes that drivers have to manually change on the fly?
Or brake diff they have to move by lever or mode?
 
koolpc said:
Get rid of all driver aids! Let the drivers drive!!!!!
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About the only driver aids they actually have these days are power steering and semi-automatic gearboxes? Haven't you read any of the thread?:confused: Do you even F1?

I do wonder what would happen if they were made to publish their fuel loads thirty minutes before the start of the race and the fuel flow limit was removed? Fuel flow limits power. Given the option a team could fuel the car higher and turn up the power or hope there's a safety car.
 
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