Marilyn Manson

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some of us have been arguing this for over a year. For some reason, various message boards are still deleting topics i raise. Regardless of what you feel about Manson or his music, on the heels of what amber heard did to Johnny Depp, this whole "let's suddenly accuse guys for a non-verifiable action that occurred years and years ago" is gettng way, way out of hand. The law needs to be changed to severly stamp on people who try this stuff, because as well as causing severe distress to the victim and all related, it's really going to hurt genuine victims who come forward know; people are probably going to look back at amber and evan and immediately give the victim a lot of doubt and disbelief because they'll just think "yeah yeah, not falling for that again."
I've been posting/following this since the moment evan named him, and i instantly thought something was wrong due to her previous comments, and since then soe awesome sites on instagram collected mountains of evidence that was continually ignored by the media because they didn't want to run w/ that story. Manson's posted a link to the court docs on his page, all 28 pages of it [!] and holy ****, it's just way beyond even the stuff i knew about; turns out they impersonated FBI officers and hacked stuff and allsorts in their campaign to try and destroy him.

can only hope that this not just vindicates Manson and puts those skanks away for a long, long time, but it effects changes in the law that will prevent this/Depp stuff happening to anyone else.
 
we are there, cos he didn't. you're a prime example of the stupidity on display of all the evidence being freely available on the internet but you're too stubborn/stupid to look at it and thereby perpetuate crimes against innocent people.
 
I do get upset about rape. that's why i also get upset about women lying about it and trying to accuse innocent meN.
seems to me that this thread is going to attract a lot of smart mouths who have fallen for the same lies and spout oh-so-clever comments w/out having looked at a single shred of the evidence. the fact you're still referring to the "bad girls room" and stuff that was discredited MONTHS ago shows this. a LOT of people have made themselves look very, very stupid by believing these liars and stubbornly sticking to that position when literal mountains of evidence to the contrary is staring them in the face so it's not really surprising to expect any different here.
 
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"Law enforcement sources tell us there have been, "some credibility issues with the victim" which have made it hard to build a legit case." lol, now there's an understatement.
 
so one of the accusers admitted in texts that she made it up cos she was pressured by the others, that one of her TV interviews was done while off her **** on ketamine [lol, like you couldn't tell], has evaded multiple deposition appointments and now her lawyer has filed a request to be allowed to w/draw from representing her due to her being "unreasonably difficult". lol. couldn't make it up.
 
he may look it but stories from virtually everyone else but these liars say otherwise. granted he's had more that his share of "rock star escapades" but he's also done countless other things to help/protect people.
 
No I don't but I'm not starting a thread telling the world (this forum) that someone is innocent in the way the OP is. As someone else said its fandom gone mad. It reminds me of football fans who jump to the defence of a player that plays for their team when accused of something when they have no idea if they did it or even worse when their is evidence they did do it but they still jump to their defence. Like I said its just odd.
i've said many times we didn't just "jump to his defence". from her first statements things sounded wrong so people looked into it. all the evidence is there - pages and pages of it, literally. past interviews, postings, timelines. go read it and make your own mind up. or maybe don't just jump in a thread making sly accusations that his defenders are just blind fanboys who refuse to think anyhting bad of him.
 
Read this and tell me that isn't odd. Its not just a story he's seen and posted, its clearly an obsession.



Now read this timeline and tell me if this is a guy you'd be shouting from the rooftops his innocence. Even if only 5% of this is true its ****** up. And with that I'm done with this thread. You guys carry on though.

try looking around here then tell me if you believe that timeline.
 
I appreciate the update. As someone who used to be a fan years ago its nice to find out people you liked werent total monsters.

Obviously the tabloids shout as loud as they can when hes accused but you never hear much about the cases getting thrown out or whatever.
if you've been following the Depp stuff too you'll have noticed how much JOhnny-positive stuff is ignore by mainstream media and yet every little thing AH did was trumpeted and headlines termed in such a was a to imply she was still a prejudiced victim.
i just thank **** that the trial was broadcast and we could all see for ourselves - can you imagine how MSM would be playing it if we just got the verdict and nothing else? they'd still be crucifying JD and bleating all about how AH had been robbed.
 
ashley morgan smithline. texts are in the latest court docs. as mentioned she appeared on a TV show w/ her lawyer smacked out her head [on ketamine, she says in the mails], that lawyer is now filing to ditch her.
 
Because this is how it Starts. People think they are either the only ones it has happened to or they are the reason it is happening. Then someone says something and everyone else that also thought it was just them also start to speak up. Epstien, Weiner et al.
in this case they went hunting for people to join in their story. they used one of his ex-assistants to get address lists of his contacts, ex girfriends etc and planned all their stories together, which was also admitted in texts. they had checklists to make sure they all used the same buzzwords and storylines. it first started breaking when they tried to recruit one ex and she told them to GTFO because her experience was nothing like that, and she was one of the first to put up youtube vids calling the BS. Most of the others who made statements either shut up after bandwagon-jumping and/or vanished after being discredited. evan then used this fake story, and her forged FBI document, as an excuse to keep her kid from his father, who is fighting for custody because she moved states unannounced and won't let him see him. her playmate in this is illma gore, serial grifter who has defrauded her own family by forging identities, and ran a campaign to raise money for charity, which she then kept for herself.

and this is just the tip of the iceberg.
 
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