Marvel's The Punisher

Just finished season 2 and was quite disappointed tbh, maybe I had too high expectations from season 1 but felt there were too many placeholders and that they ran out of ideas at the end.
 
SpartaK said:
Just finished season 2 and was quite disappointed tbh, maybe I had too high expectations from season 1 but felt there were too many placeholders and that they ran out of ideas at the end.
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On the third episode now and it sucks massively compared to the 1st, its got a bad banshee feel.
 
I got up to episode 11 and had to stop watching. Very disappointed.

Punisher accidentally kills a few women and suddenly has a crisis of conscience and starts blubbing because “men are bad”

Why does this PC/SJW stuff seep it’s way into literally everything good lord.
 
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I got up to episode 11 and had to stop watching. Very disappointed.

Punisher accidentally kills a few women and suddenly has a crisis of conscience and starts blubbing because “men are bad”

Why does this PC/SJW stuff seep it’s way into literally everything good lord.
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I think you've misunderstood the meaning of that scene. Or you're projecting your own distaste for "PC/SJW stuff".

The world sees Frank Castle as a murdering psychopath. But this isn't how Frank sees himself. He's the hero of his own narrative. He kills bad people. He doesn't kill innocent people. In that scene, he blind-fired at a wall, and three innocent people died. The aftermath is about Frank's moral dilemma, not "SJW stuff". Is he still the hero? Or has his rage at Billy Russo's turned him in to the villain?

Killing women isn't necessarily a problem. Frank has done it before. Likely women were used to represent "innocents" for this scene solely because those women, dressed that way, are quite clearly out of place. It removes any ambiguity over whether they were enemy combatants.

Arguably, children would have served this role even better. But that's maybe a step too far for Netflix.
 
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Onto ep 8.. Why is Billy just allowed to walk round having a good time and drink with the boys when he is a highly wanted person?.. Micro would have found these people instantly.

This season is absolutely terrible.
 
can't say I liked s2 much tbh overall plot was just meh, would have preferred if it was just a different bad guy every other episode
 
Just finished series 2 and thoroughly enjoyed it. Stupidly over the top violence, I prefer to get mine vicariously.
 
Wasn't bad felt bit too Taken set in fake Avengers world though, I was shocked castle even remembered daredevil.

Its pretty clear Jessica jones will be the last outing for netflix+marvel marriage, am hoping once rights go back to Marvel fully in 2+ years we get to either see these characters done better or they are evolved to what the comic versions they should have been from the start but couldn't due to budget and episode count.
 
Was ok but the storyline got a bit silly

medani getting strangled to death but not actually strangled to death :? Shoul’ve Killed her off and killed jigsaw early on
 
I watched 6 episodes before i just couldnt be bothered and skipped to last 5 mins of final episode. First episode was okay, just went downhill from there. Russo stuff was dragging on quite boring really. Spoilt by the 1st season i guess, was so hyped for the second and it just couldnt hold up.
 
season 2 first few episodes were very good and the last few were also very good. All that stuff in the middle is completely forgettable.
 
Season 2 seems to borrow heavily on a lot of pre-existing material (granted it is hard to do anything really new these days) - quite a few bits seemed to have liberally borrowed from John Carpenter movies like Assault on Precinct 13 and maybe even some Farcry 5 influence.
 
Really struggling to stay focused on season 2 mid way through. The Billy/Krista stuff is painful to watch. The 2 threads with Billy and John Pilgrim have terrible pacing so far.
 
The only person getting Punished was me, found season 2 to be absolutely garbage. The villains wasn't interesting, story was silly and just didn't connect with any of the characters.
 
satchef1 said:
I think you've misunderstood the meaning of that scene. Or you're projecting your own distaste for "PC/SJW stuff".

The world sees Frank Castle as a murdering psychopath. But this isn't how Frank sees himself. He's the hero of his own narrative. He kills bad people. He doesn't kill innocent people. In that scene, he blind-fired at a wall, and three innocent people died. The aftermath is about Frank's moral dilemma, not "SJW stuff". Is he still the hero? Or has his rage at Billy Russo's turned him in to the villain?

Killing women isn't necessarily a problem. Frank has done it before. Likely women were used to represent "innocents" for this scene solely because those women, dressed that way, are quite clearly out of place. It removes any ambiguity over whether they were enemy combatants.

Arguably, children would have served this role even better. But that's maybe a step too far for Netflix.
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Not finished the season yet, but I completely agree with the meaning of that scene and event.
 
Rroff said:
Season 2 seems to borrow heavily on a lot of pre-existing material (granted it is hard to do anything really new these days) - quite a few bits seemed to have liberally borrowed from John Carpenter movies like Assault on Precinct 13 and maybe even some Farcry 5 influence.
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I thought the same thing.

Also my fav scene had to be...

Punching the Russian Bodybuilder in the head with the weight!
 
I think the punisher character excels when hes along side daredevil, ghost rider or hulk, fantastic 4 or avengers etc

He is a bit like the hulk, doesn't really fit in well or excel unless he has a someone to work off.
 
Haha though I actually found season 2 fairly watchable some stuff just is so bad and makes it unbelievable - for instance bunch of guys, ex-military and mostly supposedly not just run of the mill grunts, holed up with stolen money and guns and get jumpy when someone walks in the door - like they wouldn't have a perimeter setup and eyes on anyone approaching long before they got near........ or where Billy with his supposed experience and abilities opens up with multiple extended magazines but somehow manages to miss well everything shortly followed by bullets that take out a windscreen supposedly missing him when he is directly behind the holes they make as they pass through the windscreen....
 
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