I would think they find away around it.
Mass Effect Requires Online Validation Every Ten Days to Function
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Best point made.
If they care so much about piracy, stick it on Steam. It usually takes a few extra days before you see Valve games appearing online. And they'd turn a bigger profit and save money on security.
Sounds like a plan to me. I'd even pay extra for a Steam version.
True games usually cost more on Steam but it's worth it. In fact didn't Bioshock have activation even on Steam? I wouldn't even buy a game on Steam if it had this activation malarky on it, I'd just buy a retail version and crack it.Well thats usually the case, *cough* Bioshock.
Nope, no activation.
In that case good. If Mass Effect comes out on Steam without activation, I'd buy it instantly.
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That's the thing these companies don't understand.Things like this make we want to pirate the game more
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I doubt it will take someone 10 days to complete it though.
Pretty sure it did, but it was removed due to the outcry.
Apparently Spore is going to have the same as ME too.
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I agree, I'm tired of hearing about how we're losing IP's, and it's fustrating as I don't want to buy a console (again) to play specific games because developers see piracy as a reason not to release on PC. Piracy is so rampant and easy to distribute that, really, the only way forward is to increase online validation measures. If games actually ever get to be on blu-ray, and thus be 10's of GB's, i wonder if that would stop the downloaders either ?
With increasing internet speeds, size will be less and less of a problem, also I'm all for the ISP banning, as I have nothing to worry about, so it won't affect me.
It's the same as when Steam came out as an anti-piracy measure, you may not like it now, but if this is successful, expect to see a lot more games adopting it.
I don't know- I've previously been a bit wary of schemes like these, and not really agreed with them. But it has to be said, PC game piracy is rife. On Torrent trackers, PC games always have loads of seeds/leeches. I think if the PC as a games platform is always 2nd to consoles, we're going to consistently get crap ports all the time.
As long as the privacy aspect is covered (i.e. all it validates is the key with no personal info) I could put up with it. Still doesn't help people who game on the move, but 3G datacards are dropping in price all the time
As long as the privacy aspect is covered (i.e. all it validates is the key with no personal info) I could put up with it. Still doesn't help people who game on the move, but 3G datacards are dropping in price all the time
Regardless of whether I have access to the Internet, the point is that this won't prevent piracy and therfore all it has achieved is to annoy the paying customer while the pirates go on about their buisness as usual.
As others have said, developers should stop wasting money on schemes like this.
Ridiculous, as stated it won't affect piracy. There will be a crack that removes all the junk, and the pirates will be fine, then the ligitimate users will have all sorts of problems.
I.e Your net is down while you change iSP (Which can take a lot longer than 15 days (seems the max you have without activation). We also don't know if it records your MAC/IP new network card? new game?
Not to mention crap systems like this ALWAYS fail on release day (Steam come big patch days used to be useless) because they will have under specced the neccessity and usage of the activation server and it will be reduced to a puddling mass of molten metal.
It's just turning things more towards them, the license you buy to use that game (you never own it) is becoming more restrictive and outrageous.
I.e Your net is down while you change iSP (Which can take a lot longer than 15 days (seems the max you have without activation). We also don't know if it records your MAC/IP new network card? new game?
Not to mention crap systems like this ALWAYS fail on release day (Steam come big patch days used to be useless) because they will have under specced the neccessity and usage of the activation server and it will be reduced to a puddling mass of molten metal.
It's just turning things more towards them, the license you buy to use that game (you never own it) is becoming more restrictive and outrageous.
This sort of stuff really annoys and even angers me whether i care about the product or not as its the principle of the thing, i mean sure they should have some security but nothing thats intrusive or affects anyone or anything in a negative way.
Why can't companies just accept there will be a certain level of piracy no matter what they do?
I mean some people won't buy certain things whether they can afford to or not and so its not like they're losing money to those people as its money they would never get anyway, regardless of the moral and legal issues, don't make everyone pay for it, as long as they're making reasonable profits by selling at a fair price and if the product is worth it most are happy to pay, supposedly these people know how to run a business but how come most of them know **** about image and how if they simply treat the customer well they'll be treated to profits, when will they learn?
Why can't companies just accept there will be a certain level of piracy no matter what they do?
I mean some people won't buy certain things whether they can afford to or not and so its not like they're losing money to those people as its money they would never get anyway, regardless of the moral and legal issues, don't make everyone pay for it, as long as they're making reasonable profits by selling at a fair price and if the product is worth it most are happy to pay, supposedly these people know how to run a business but how come most of them know **** about image and how if they simply treat the customer well they'll be treated to profits, when will they learn?
I've always seen just as many console games on torrent trackers and usenet as PC games. Oddly console gamers are not punished with these insane copy protection methods like PC gamers, but I wonder if the industry will one day realise this and force you to activate your games over Xbox Live or Playstation Network.
I'm sorry but as a person who games primarily on the PC I am sick of being discriminated against and treated like a criminal, even when I buy my games, when I could take or leave legit games on my 360 if I chose to as there's no hassle involved there.
*Chortle.*
I'd rather they just realise that good games will sell brilliantly, even pirates will buy good games.
Look at games such as Oblivion that sold very well, and still continue to sell even now, and the only copy protection it has is a CD check. Look at games such as Company Of Heroes that allow you to play even with no disc in the drive. Look at games such as Galactic Civilizations II that Stardock all but allow you to pirate but says you must purchase the game if you want to update it with patches.
What's the theme here? Aside from being good games none of these games require insane systems such as Starforce or Securom, which are notorious for installing junk drivers on computers and even breaking optical disc drives in some cases, and nor do they require any sort of daft activation scheme.
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