Nice inverse snobbery there. Seemingly ignoring the fact that just about every man and his dog thinks it's brilliant.
mavity (2013)
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Nice inverse snobbery there. Seemingly ignoring the fact that just about every man and his dog thinks it's brilliant.
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Yes because movies generally are so believable!
It still makes me giggle when somebody down-rates ANY film because it isn't "realistic".
Film by its very nature isn't realistic. Even those films that are attempting to be a "real account" have to be made more exciting because simply put "real life is boring and uninteresting".
Sorry, but that approach is such a cop out and so lazy! Any film of course is typically a leap of faith, but when those leaps are too large people start to disconnect. Typically signified by groans and rolling of eyes
For me, I found all of the events in mavity absolutely fine (even though many were of course a tad unrealistic). ie: I didn't find any leap of faith too large for me to believe... Except - as I've said before - it was a shame about...
...the most pivotal scene in the film - Clooney sacrificing himself - was so weak. Him letting go was utterly pointless as it would not have returned her to the ISS.
What particularly annoys me is after all the effort they put in so many areas, this scene which is so important and worse still could so easily have been fixed to make it totally plausible. eg:-
They're in the same situation as in the film. Clooney pulls Bullock face to face with him, gives his "sacrifice speech" and pushes her as hard as he can back towards the ISS. She heads back to the ISS, he's sent away... Done!
What particularly annoys me is after all the effort they put in so many areas, this scene which is so important and worse still could so easily have been fixed to make it totally plausible. eg:-
They're in the same situation as in the film. Clooney pulls Bullock face to face with him, gives his "sacrifice speech" and pushes her as hard as he can back towards the ISS. She heads back to the ISS, he's sent away... Done!
Anyway, great flick with some unbelievably long "takes".
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Anyone seeing/seen this @ Greenwich imax? Itching to see this after all the positive feedback,curious to the ticket prices /experience.
We saw it at Greenwich IMAX in 3D on wednesday
it was Orange wednesday 
The experience was great and probably the best 3D film I have seen. I didn't think I was going to enjoy this film - I mean, how long can a film about being castaway in space really last?
However, I enjoyed it more than I thought. You are totally immersed in the film and the ISS footage was great.
I think had we'd seen it in 2D it would have been rubbish.
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Sorry, but that approach is such a cop out and so lazy! Any film of course is typically a leap of faith, but when those leaps are too large people start to disconnect. Typically signified by groans and rolling of eyes
For me, I found all of the events in mavity absolutely fine (even though many were of course a tad unrealistic). ie: I didn't find any leap of faith too large for me to believe... Except - as I've said before - it was a shame about...
...the most pivotal scene in the film - Clooney sacrificing himself - was so weak. Him letting go was utterly pointless as it would not have returned her to the ISS.
What particularly annoys me is after all the effort they put in so many areas, this scene which is so important and worse still could so easily have been fixed to make it totally plausible. eg:-
They're in the same situation as in the film. Clooney pulls Bullock face to face with him, gives his "sacrifice speech" and pushes her as hard as he can back towards the ISS. She heads back to the ISS, he's sent away... Done!
Anyway, great flick with some unbelievably long "takes".
So films like Star Trek, Star Wars, and other Sci-Fi movies don't take a leap of faith to be absorbed and enjoy almost as if it were "real"?
Don't understand your point? I'll re-explain mine in the hope of some clarity...
Most films require a leap of faith. The problems arise where this leap of faith expects too much from the audience.
Let us take zombie films as an example. The dead rising from the grave to many of us is clearly daft, BUT most of us are willing to take that leap of faith necessary to accept it for the purpose of watching a film/TV episode. Now, for many people though, when these zombies start roaring like dinosaurs, that's a step too far... Or when they start clambering along ceilings (ala Day of the Dead 2008) I suspect most people would lose that element of "trust" in the film, and the "deal" is broken.
So for me, when people use the explanation, "it's just a film" to explain away potential failings in a film it seems to be missing the point and ultimately lazy.
Now, to get us back onto topic, mavity for all its far fetched'ness, for me never breaks that bond. ie: The leap of faith required to accept the film for what it is seems fair it doesn't abuse it. The Clooney scene I mentioned before is frustrating, but that's all.
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I guess I take films at face value and am willing to immerse myself into it (if it grabs me).
I understand what you're trying to say - but I guess for me, being a fairly simple person, I find it pretty much every film stands on their own merits, whether tangible or not.
I understand what you're trying to say - but I guess for me, being a fairly simple person, I find it pretty much every film stands on their own merits, whether tangible or not.
Maybe just not your cup of tea? Or you watched it in the wrong frame of mind/mood?
You might find you'll watch it on TV in a couple of years and enjoy it more...
Absolutely, BUT, it's when the film just asks too much of you surely all deals are off then? eg: What annoyed the hell out of me in the Star Trek reboot was the following:-
1) Kirk is kicked off the enterprise at a random location in space.
2) He lands in an escape capsule on a random planet, at a random location.
3) He sets off in a random direction.
4) He's chased by a monster into a random cave.
5) Spock is there!
Now this for me breaks my "leap of faith". Of course I can still enjoy the film, but from that moment on I've lost a bit of faith in being dealt a fair hand by this film. ie: If they're willing to suggest that, what nonsense will they give us next?
"It's just a film" doesn't excuse this sort of thing - It's a leap of faith too far for me at least
What this deal breaker is differs for all of us of course. Some people are more forgiving, some less.
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Fair points I just don't think of it that deeply and it doesn't strike me.
I just don't think of it that deeply and it doesn't strike me.thread says otherwise
These threads will always generate polarised opinions, though, full of people who really loved the film in question or really hated it. There will be plenty of people who haven't seen it who just remain quiet.
My point is that Rotten Tomatoes has it coming out with 97% positive reviews, 95% of the top critics giving it a positive review, an average rating of 9.1/10 and 86% of viewers giving it a good rating. That's an incredible result, and it's idiotic to say things like "Well, someone like Mark Kermode would like it" as though that proves anything. Sure, Mark Kermode would like it, but so did 269 other critics and countless viewers.
Exactly this - you can pick holes in the science of nearly any film, but this creation suspends your disbelief in the favour of the sheer spectacle and audial-visual entertainment; in this respect, I believe it was entirely successful.
If I had to critique it, I would argue that the background story of Bullock's character and her hardships in life were unnecessary, for we as an audience bond with her character enough on a fundamental human scale; a need for survival, and to exist through the physical and emotional traumas just encountered.
I found some of the intense tensions built up throughout were slackened during what I have labelled as the 'Bart Simpson school of rocket propulsion scene'
The group I watched with all agreed that the struggle of the main character was well conveyed across to the audience, with the first person views through one of many space helmets aiding in transporting the viewer into orbit - how many of us found themselves subconsciously holding their breath I wonder?
Until the final minute, Bullock's character struggled - from avoiding hurtling space debris and suffocation, right down to the damn tangling weeds and unsupportive sand at the end! *shakes fist at earth!* What kind of welcome home is that!
I found some of the intense tensions built up throughout were slackened during what I have labelled as the 'Bart Simpson school of rocket propulsion scene'
The group I watched with all agreed that the struggle of the main character was well conveyed across to the audience, with the first person views through one of many space helmets aiding in transporting the viewer into orbit - how many of us found themselves subconsciously holding their breath I wonder?
Until the final minute, Bullock's character struggled - from avoiding hurtling space debris and suffocation, right down to the damn tangling weeds and unsupportive sand at the end! *shakes fist at earth!* What kind of welcome home is that!
Despite me not particularly rating her as an actress before, I found Bullock believable and she puts in a strong performance- the film will likely take many awards (or at the least nominations) - but they will be for everything on screen less the actors.
Film of the year so far? I'm not sure. Cinematic experience of the year so far? Definitely!
On a final note, I would highly recommend this as a cinema viewing - much will be lost to DVD/blu-ray and this is simply a fantastic 90 minutes for ~£12.50 of your English pounds.
I've seen it 3D Imax and 3D regular screen. The imax was a bit clearer, but the regular 3D wasn't far behind IMHO.
As a result I certainly wouldn't pay 3x the price, and journey a lot further again to go to an imax.
I agree with you there...Exactly this - you can pick holes in the science of nearly any film, but this creation suspends your disbelief in the favour of the sheer spectacle and audial-visual entertainment; in this respect, I believe it was entirely successful.
If I had to critique it, I would argue that the background story of Bullock's character and her hardships in life were unnecessary, for we as an audience bond with her character enough on a fundamental human scale; a need for survival, and to exist through the physical and emotional traumas just encountered.
I found some of the intense tensions built up throughout were slackened during what I have labelled as the 'Bart Simpson school of rocket propulsion scene'
The group I watched with all agreed that the struggle of the main character was well conveyed across to the audience, with the first person views through one of many space helmets aiding in transporting the viewer into orbit - how many of us found themselves subconsciously holding their breath I wonder?
Until the final minute, Bullock's character struggled - from avoiding hurtling space debris and suffocation, right down to the damn tangling weeds and unsupportive sand at the end! *shakes fist at earth!* What kind of welcome home is that!
I found the "my child died so I drive" stuff a touch clunky.
Another dodgy bit must be the fact she crashed the landing craft simulator over and over, yet when she came to do it in real life (from the Chinese station) she only needed to press a single button to land it?
Another dodgy bit must be the fact she crashed the landing craft simulator over and over, yet when she came to do it in real life (from the Chinese station) she only needed to press a single button to land it?
Likewise - it's Hunger Games now at the Imax in Manchester.
I'll go see it at the Cineworld near me. I can see it in 3D there, and it's a fairly new cinema so fairly well kitted out.