Max Mosley - oh dear

knip said:
So you see nothing wrong in a man cheating on his wife of over 30 years ...
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If that's the case I think it's pretty reprehensible behaviour, although do we know she doesn't know about this? I'm not, however, a fan of judging public figures on the basis of selected snippets of their private life. I'd much rather people were judged on their ability to do their jobs and had their privacy respected.

... and you see nothing wrong with someone who gets sexual kicks from pretending to be one of those thousands upon thousands of people who were murdered in concentration camps?
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No, I don't. I find S&M in general pretty hard to understand, it really doesn't do anything for me. However, after being pretty close to some people who are very heavily into the scene I've come to the conclusion that actually it's entirely up to them and not at all sick like it seems on the surface.

For someone who said the things he said about McClaren I personally find him to be despicable.
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Totally valid point, iyam.
 
Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article3649197.ece


Max Mosley’s son faces calls to quit as Formula One chief after ‘Nazi’ orgy
Ashling O’Connor and Ed Gorman

Max Mosley, one of the most powerful men in world sport, was under pressure to resign as boss of Formula One’s governing body last night after he was exposed enjoying a Nazi-style orgy with five prostitutes.

Jewish groups condemned the behaviour of Mosley, 67, whose father, Sir Oswald, was the leader of the British Union of Fascists and a friend of Adolf Hitler.

Mr Mosley was caught on video by the News of the World with five women in an underground “torture chamber” in Chelsea, where he spent several hours allegedly indulging in sado-masochistic sex.

The Oxford-educated former barrister, who is president of the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA), reenacted a concentration camp scene in which he played the role of both guard and inmate.

Speaking in German and brandishing a leather whip, he beat the women after allowing himself to be subjected to a humiliating inspection for lice and an interrogation in chains.

Mr Mosley, a close confidant of Bernie Ecclestone, who holds the commercial rights to Formula One, paid £2,500 cash for the sex services, the Sunday newspaper claimed.

His antics stunned Jewish leaders and motorsport insiders. “This is sick and depraved,” Karen Pollock, chief executive of the Holocaust Educational Trust, said. “For anyone to be in such a position of influence and power beggars belief. I am absolutely appalled.”

Stephen Smith, director of the Holocaust Centre, said: “As Mr Mosley has condemned the racism in motor sport he should live up to the standards he sets. This is an insult to millions of victims, survivors and their families. He should apologise. He should resign from the sport.”

Sir Stirling Moss, the former world champion racing driver whose father was Jewish, said: “I don’t see how he can continue. I hope he can, frankly, because I think he’s very good at what he does. I suppose what goes on behind closed doors is his business but when a thing comes out like this . . . it’s an absolute shocker.”

Mr Mosley, whose two years in Germany as a young teenager gave him fluency in the language, has helped to turn Formula One into a multi-billion-pound business since he became FIA president in 1993. The FIA is a nonprofit association that represents the interests of motoring organisations and car users worldwide.

Mr Ecclestone said that he was shocked by the allegations but did not expect Mr Mosley’s position to be affected. “I’ve known him an awful long time. If somebody had told me this without the evidence I would have found it difficult to believe,” he said.

“Assuming it’s all true, what people do privately is up to them. I don’t honestly believe [it] affects the sport in any way. Knowing Max it might be all a bit of a joke. You know, it’s one of those things where he’s sort of taking the ****, rather than anything against Jewish people.”

Mr Mosley, who lives in Monaco, is understood to be pursuing legal action against the News of The World for breach of privacy. His spokesman said: “This is a matter between Mr Mosley and the newspaper in question and the FIA has no comment.”

Martin Brundle, the driver-turned-pundit who was recently the subject of a libel action brought by Mr Mosley, said: “It’s not appropriate behaviour for the head of any global body such as the FIA.”

Mr Mosley, who once harboured ambitions to be a parliamentary candidate for the Conservative Party, is known for being eccentric and outspoken. Nicknamed “Mad Max” by some in motorsport, he once said he didn’t mind flak because he came from a family used to getting it all the time.

Hitler was present at the wedding of his father, Oswald, and mother, Diana, which took place in Joseph Goebbels’s drawing room. They were interred in Holloway and Brixton prisons for their Fascist connections.

Most recently, Mr Mosley stood up against racism in Formula One by giving warning of immediate sanctions if there was a repeat of the abuse against Lewis Hamilton, the only black driver on the circuit, in Barcelona during testing this season.
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What a wonderful insight into the rantings of someone who thinks he's above all others

"He goes around dressed up as a Thirties music hall man. He’s a certified halfwit"
On Sir Jackie Stewart (a dyslexic)
 
[TW]Fox;11399720 said:
What he does or doesnt do with his wife or other consenting adults behind closed doors is the business of nobody but himself and his wife. Professional life and private life should always remain seperate.
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Except it doesn't, nor should it.

He accused others of bringing the name of F1 into disrepute.

He's doing worse.
 
Whilst that is true that is the world we live in.

[edit]Correction: that is the world he lives in.
 
I agree with Fox's sentiments in a general case, but OTOH this son of a facist runs a virtual dictatorship (FIA) whose ridiculous politics and in-fighting have gone a long way to ruin the sport. That his fantasies relate directly to the political leanings of his openly fascist father is either a staggeringly huge coincidence, or he is showing his true colours.

Not sure if it comes across very clearly but I don't really like him...
 
Haha. That interview with ecclestone is fantastic. Renewed my appriciation for the guy :)
 
Oh dont get me wrong, I hate him as well and would like nothing more than for him to resign over this.

However, being impartial, I think it's frankly wrong :)
 
Gilly said:
He accused others of bringing the name of F1 into disrepute.

He's doing worse.
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Excellent point, he said exactly that in the Spygate case, seems slightly ironic now.

And whilst nothing he has done is illegal, it isn't the sort of behavior (imo) some one in Mosleys position should be practicing or condoning, it's not so much the sexual nature of it that gets me, it's the whole Nazi/fascism aspect to it.
 
On a serious note, what's wrong with a bit of bondage, I haven't seen anything to suggest WW2 NAZI treatment of Jews.

It's equivalent to someone filming you at it with your wife and then requesting that you resign. Except maybe the prostitute part of it all.
 
BigglesPiP said:
On a serious note, what's wrong with a bit of bondage, I haven't seen anything to suggest WW2 NAZI treatment of Jews.

It's equivalent to someone filming you at it with your wife and then requesting that you resign. Except maybe the prostitute part of it all.
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I haven't seen the video, but there's been descriptions of them dressing as a prisoner in a concentration camp, as well as nazi stormtroopers.

Given his background I find that very, very wrong.
 
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