Maybe an EV then.... or?

Cliffhanger said:
A Polestar 2 I think if I can find one to the right age, range and mileage is do-able but there doesn't seem many about.

Would never touch a Vauxhall, Renault, Citroen, or any other european *****...

Toyotas are and have always been bulletproof cars....

But going back to my original query it would either be BMW, Mini or Honda.

I have seen loads of BMW i3s and mini electrics.... but only 1 or 2 Honda Es.

Whether thats a good or bad thing I dont know.

Either way I be swapping it after Xmas to whatever....

I'd love to spend more but we need a new kitchen .... so limited on car spending...
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IMO The jap car makers are lagging behind in the EV world by a fair margin.

Tesla, Polestar and the Koreans are leading the way tbh, VAG have finally got their stuff together. Reno are decent but none of them are in your budget. Stellantis products are meh but cheap. The old world views on manufacturers and what they have historically done, are out of the window when it comes to the EV world.
 
Both are fine for what you need, I’d just test drive and see what you like. It pretty much comes down to that.

Tinders said:
IMO The jap car makers are lagging behind in the EV world by a fair margin.

Tesla, Polestar and the Koreans are leading the way tbh, VAG have finally got their stuff together. Reno are decent but none of them are in your budget. Stellantis products are meh but cheap. The old world views on manufacturers and what they have historically done, are out of the window when it comes to the EV world.
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Also don’t discount China. Specifically BYD, NIO and the likes of MG at the low end.

Polestar and Volvo is technically a Chinese brand now also, both owned by Geely and some of the newer cars (Polestar 4 or 3?) are built on Geely platforms not Volvo platforms.
 
Chinese car companies are smashing it right now imo, but someone who thinks japs are the daddies is unlikely to consider one :p
 
Demon said:
its a great time to buy relatively new EVs due to the market getting dumped on by salary sacrifice schemes.
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What do you mean Demon? Do you mean people that came to the end of those periods have had their cars released into market by the dealers/lease companies?

I'm not very clued up on the BIK stuff and government grants. I don't have a ltd company and nor do I work for a company that does any kind of EV scheme stuff. Is it still worth looking at EVs brand new in that regard?
 
Cliffhanger said:
How many of you lot have electric or Hybrid cars.
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I have a Renault Zoe. I was going to say if you hold off a year or two you'd likely pick up a Renault 5 which is getting rave reviews.

If you were willing to give Renault/Vauxhall a try you could easily pick up a low mileage in warranty model Zoe/Corsa for not much money at all. Just make sure it's got all the toys.

You've got to remember Renault have been in the EV game longer than most, they know a thing or two about EV's.
 
jaybee said:
What do you mean Demon? Do you mean people that came to the end of those periods have had their cars released into market by the dealers/lease companies?

I'm not very clued up on the BIK stuff and government grants. I don't have a ltd company and nor do I work for a company that does any kind of EV scheme stuff. Is it still worth looking at EVs brand new in that regard?
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Basically because of the BIK incentives, if you are the kind of person who likes to drive a fairly new (sub 3-4 year old) car and have access to a scheme, it makes no sense to buy privately. You just lease a new one for less cost to you.

That means the depreciation on nearly new EVs is massive because there is no market for relitivly new used EVs while the BIK incentives exist.

Great if you are happy to buy in at 3-4 years old though, there are some absolute bargains to be had.
 
OldKitMan said:
I have a Renault Zoe. I was going to say if you hold off a year or two you'd likely pick up a Renault 5 which is getting rave reviews.

If you were willing to give Renault/Vauxhall a try you could easily pick up a low mileage in warranty model Zoe/Corsa for not much money at all. Just make sure it's got all the toys.

You've got to remember Renault have been in the EV game longer than most, they know a thing or two about EV's
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Tried to sit in a Zoe once... couldnt get my knees under the steering wheel.

Theres a lot of cars I can't fit in...

Bloody long legs....
 
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I had a Polestar 2 for 3 years, they are great cars but relatively small inside. I'm 187cm tall (6ft 1") and with the seat in my driving position there wasn't much room behind the seat for passengers.

Now i have an iX, which is a quite bit larger :)
 
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SDK^ said:
I had a Polestar 2 for 3 years, they are great cars but relatively small inside. I'm 187cm tall (6ft 1") and with the seat in my driving position there wasn't much room behind the seat for passengers.

Now i have an iX, which is a quite bit larger
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I am used to getting into cars and people not being able to sit behind me.

My wifes countryman is the best for rear legroom... the focus is awful....
 
I have a 2021 Gen 2 Leaf Tekna and love it, there's no way I will ever be going back to a ICE powered car. My running costs are down to a penny a mile using my cheap (5p a unit) overnight rate. I can get 125-130 miles out of a full charge in the summer but that drops to around 100-110 miles in the winter. I knew all about the small range of the Leaf but it's the perfect car for me as we mostly do local round trips of around 37 miles with the odd 125 mile round trip to hospital in Aberdeen or Inverness. It's very comfortable, grips the road nicely, has loads of gadgets and will even park itself although I haven't used that though as I can reverse/parallel park plus it accelerates silly fast!! I am 6'2" and even I can fit in the set behind me with loads of legroom. It's got a big, deep boot too.
 
I'm a convert to EVs, didn't think I'd say that a few years ago but here we are. You can also tell by the amount of threads and posts on this forum how much traction EVs are getting.

As somebody who has also been on the hunt for used EV I'd say set a budget, sit in and drive a few, be patient and go for it.
 
jaybee said:
What do you mean Demon? Do you mean people that came to the end of those periods have had their cars released into market by the dealers/lease companies?
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Indeed, the 'tax free' savings on salary sacrifice mean lots of people are leasing cars on salary sacrifice, at the end of the 2/3/4 year lease period, those cars are dumped on the second hand market as there is usually no option to 'buy' the car and most people just lease the next one.

The EV 'market' is actually very good with EV sales ever increasing, the issue is that with such gross over-supply, the basic laws of economics comes in to play and second hand prices are very low.
jaybee said:
I'm not very clued up on the BIK stuff and government grants. I don't have a ltd company and nor do I work for a company that does any kind of EV scheme stuff. Is it still worth looking at EVs brand new in that regard?
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It is worth buying new if you can get a good deal.
For example, the 'new' MG MGS5 was launch a couple of months ago, the range topping Long Range Trophy version had an RRP of £34K and due to sales targets not being met, they had £10k off the RRP last week, so you could get a new one for £23850..

Even back in 2021, I got £6.5k off a brand new ID.3 Max (top of the range).. that was down to slow sales since many rivals in that segment suddenly appeared on the market.
 
Pretty sure those are the ones with Chademo which is a dead rapid charging standard.

Probably not super relevant for your needs but yeh it’s a dead standard and really slow.
 
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Cliffhanger said:
Anyone know anything about the Lexus Ux300e.... are they any good?
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Same CVT and hybrid system as all the other Toyota hybrids. They are all good tbh. I'd buy one of them over anything Chinese any day. Even the current Yaris hybrid is a nice driving experience.
 
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