Mcdonalds strikes again!!!

spoffle said:
Do you have a source for this? As I said earlier in the thread, I spilt water straight from a boiled kettle over my arm and left hand, and nothing came of it.
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did you leave it on for 5 seconds?

5 seconds is a loooooong time when you're burning trust me on that lol


i got it from a first aid course (you should have seen the horrific imagoes they showed us of elderly people who'd been put in too hot baths by inattentive carers :( thats something that's never going to leave my mind) Google=e brings up

http://www.burnfoundation.org/programs/resource.cfm?c=1&a=3

http://www.ameriburn.org/Preven/ScaldInjuryEducator'sGuide.pdf

in farenhight though. (140)
Hot Water Causes Third Degree Burns…
…in 1 second at 156º
…in 2 seconds at 149º
…in 5 seconds at 140º
…in 15 seconds at 133º.
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seconds degree will occur faster and is more likely, i think these 3rd degree times are for submersion not spilling which is less due to it quickly evaporating and splashing off hence why prisoners mix in sugar when they want to burn someone sticks better and burns more. but if it's held close contact by clothes it will do incredible damage.



people really underestimate just how easy we are to damage through heat.
 
It wasn't for 5 seconds no, about 2, and I shook my arm frantically afterwards (I was half asleep at the time, it really woke me up).

However, what's got me curious is that water fresh from a kettle is going to be over 149f don't you think? But literally nothing happened bar slight redness and very mild soreness for a day or so.
 
spoffle said:
Do you have a source for this? As I said earlier in the thread, I spilt water straight from a boiled kettle over my arm and left hand, and nothing came of it.
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Spilling is not the same as sustained immersion like if soaked into clothes, the energy transfer is minimal in comparison.

Hyburnate said:
e; Just a thought, if those figures are correct regarding temps, why don't they reduce the temp? I guess transportation...
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Because research from the previous similar case shows that the water needs to be about 90 degrees for the flavors to come out properly when brewing coffee.
 
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spoffle said:
It wasn't for 5 seconds no, about 2, and I shook my arm frantically afterwards (I was half asleep at the time, it really woke me up).

However, what's got me curious is that water fresh from a kettle is going to be over 149f don't you think? But literally nothing happened bar slight redness and very mild soreness for a day or so.
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yes but most of it will bounce off and not stick, and whats left will evaporate off quickly. so your exposure time is probably well less than 1 second of constant contact.

oil will burn you amazingly well due to it sticking and not boiling. if the fluid soaks into your clothes its held against your skin. (such as being sat in a car and not even being able to stand up)
 
Steeps said:
From the article: She claims the cup was over-filled, the lid was not attached correctly and the cup holder was not adequate to hold the two beverages.

Clearly this is a cup holder design fault, as my car is more than capable of holding two large drinks in the cup holders. At least she won't be reproducing for a while.
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Is she not referring to the cardboard cup holders that they hand you your drink in?


spoffle said:
About 6 months ago I accidentally spilt water freshly boiled from kettle all over my left and and down my left arm when I was filling up a hot water bottle. I was really concerned that it would bubble and blister, but it didn't fortunately. Though at the time I was surprised at how little it actually hurt.

My hand and arm did go red, so I applied some cocoa butter to the area and went to bed, and that was the extent of it, it was slightly sore to the touch for a day or so but nothing else. I don't really get what was up with that, but I'm certainly not complaining.
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If you burn yourself again I wouldn't put a buttery type substance on it. You run the risk of it retaining the heat in your skin and "cooking" yourself. Just stick it under the tap for 20mins.
 
Tefal said:
yes but most of it will bounce off and not stick, and whats left will evaporate off quickly. so your exposure time is probably well less than 1 second of constant contact.

oil will burn you amazingly well due to it sticking and not boiling. if the fluid soaks into your clothes its held against your skin. (such as being sat in a car and not even being able to stand up)
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That makes sense then :)

Captain Planet said:
If you burn yourself again I wouldn't put a buttery type substance on it. You run the risk of it retaining the heat in your skin and "cooking" yourself. Just stick it under the tap for 20mins.
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Oh yeah I'd ran it under the tap and put some moisturiser (cocoa butter, not a real sort of butter :p) on it about 10 minutes after running it under some water just to sooth the initial stinging from it. :)

I derped and did it again a few days later, filling up a hot water bottle (same as the first time). I took to hanging the water bottle up and filling it without holding any of it :D. Maybe I just need to stop using kettles in sleep deprived states.
 
Angilion said:
Serving drinks at a temperature that will cause third degree burns in a few seconds is not safe, nor is it sensible to do so for the relatively small number of people who buy coffee to drink half an hour later.
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Shut up and sit down.

I suppose we should stop selling brake cleaner because it's highly toxic and some idiot might ignore common sense let alone the warning written on the can and drink it?

How about knives? If it can cut a lemon someone might stab themselves with it.

What about petrol? Oh no, couldn't sell petrol, someone might accidentally set fire to themselves. No need to sell such flammable liquids, let's go back to horses because horses are safer.

If someone is moronic enough to spill coffee on themselves then it's their own fault - they should be fully aware of how hot the beverage is and take care. If they don't then it's their own fault.

Like every time I've had an accident at work it's been my own stupid fault for taking a shortcut or not being careful enough, I just own up and go "I ****ed up". I don't sue the company or look to ban the activity in question.

I like my coffee piping hot, most places never serve it hot enough. At work I drink black tea, just boiling water and a teabag (and I preheat the mug), I don't ever have a burnt mouth from it.

But hey "Where there's a blame there's a claim" say the whiny old scrouging *******s who have no sense of personal responsibility.
 
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