Mcguard locking wheel nut problem

Jonny ///M said:
Halfords sell a set of sockets with reverse threads...they will take them off no bother.

Can't believe they even had the nerve to do that!
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On the other hand, if you had the chance to make £170 for 30 minutes work, would you turn it down ?
 
Well if the nuts were too tight for the key then how were they tightened in the first place? Using the Force?

The answer of course is that they were tightened progressively using a torque wrench and should have been removed in the same way. The dealer has obviously used an air-hammer type thing which applies repeated short bursts of very high torque to "hammer" the nut off, so to speak. I reckon it's this which has sent a very high torque shock through the key and snapped it.
 
Actually if you want to do it correctly and not work through your collection of old sockets, use one of the old welded cross-brace jobs, you can beat snot out of them to get them over the old nut, but as the socket is fixed to the bar you've got enough leverage to work the brace off and get to work on the next wheel.

I've heard.
 
Vertigo1 said:
Well if the nuts were too tight for the key then how were they tightened in the first place? Using the Force?

The answer of course is that they were tightened progressively using a torque wrench and should have been removed in the same way. The dealer has obviously used an air-hammer type thing which applies repeated short bursts of very high torque to "hammer" the nut off, so to speak. I reckon it's this which has sent a very high torque shock through the key and snapped it.
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Or the tyre monkey didn't have the key in quite right and the first blast from the airgun shreaded the load bearing surface.
 
Tyre places tend to tighten stuff up way too much. Did the brakes on the left side of ma dads motor....go to the right wheel and it wouldn't move. Bent his foot long wheelnut thing int he process. This resulted in careful driving to my work to get a 1/2 drive wheelnut socket to fit his 2ft torque wrench which got them off.

My brother also went to take his wheel off to fix an ARB droplink bolt or something the nuts where stuck solid.
 
Yeah, i can agree with the above. Had to take my wheels off the other day to find i couldn't with the normal tyre iron. I had to find a 2 ft long bar to go over the tyre iron and only then would it shift. The garage must have been torqued up to 150lb/ft+ considering the recommended torque figure for the wheel nuts is about 105lb/ft and the wheel nuts come off without much drama after that.
 
The car was fine when it went in, hence you have to pay for no damage done while in their care. Just inform them it better be mint when you get it back or there'll be trouble. If you even consider paying money because THEY broke your car then you need a hefty slap.
 
Adam_D200 said:
Sounds like they used an air gun to torque the locking nut.... things dont just break....
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If that's the case, why do mobile HGV tyre fitters (who use air guns) still use Torque wrenches as part of the tyre fitting process?

O.P., you are being ripped off.
 
R124/LA420 said:
If that's the case, why do mobile HGV tyre fitters (who use air guns) still use Torque wrenches as part of the tyre fitting process?
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Nasty when they "let go", saw one of the fitters at a bus depot i was temping in putting his shoulder out when one failed.
 
Apparently the garage "lazered" them off ..never heard of that before!

They said one of the wheels had got scratched

Think ill be writing a letter to Skoda UK when I get it back should have took the car in myself.
 
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SB118 said:
Lasered? wha? Did they show you the bits they mashed?
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I am guessing ill see the wheels when she goes and picks the car up

£170 for an idiot to snap a locking wheel nut key damage the finish on one or more alloys and destroy my locking wheel nuts.
 
Ask mattpc about locking nuts - the Xantia of Satan(c) spent this weekend doing it's level best to stop us getting the wheels off and the lock nuts were proper comedy. Not only had the tyre-monkey over-tightened them, the lock nuts were about round. See above pics by SB118 to see how we finished up.
 
R124/LA420 said:
If that's the case, why do mobile HGV tyre fitters (who use air guns) still use Torque wrenches as part of the tyre fitting process?

O.P., you are being ripped off.
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I dunno, did a mobile HGV tyre fitter do his wheel nuts up? :p

You should always torque the wheels nuts by hand, your local backstreet tyre fitter might not though.... :rolleyes:
 
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