McLaren - were they right to favour LH over FA?

In regard to the OP. It's all speculation. It's hyperthetical and subjective. Nothing of any use can come from this and it serves only to cause pointless debates.

It's like saying, what if there was a man on the grassy knoll. :rolleyes:
 
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Sliver said:
In regard to the OP. It's all speculation. It's hypertheitcal and subjective. Nothing of any use can come from this and it serves only to cause pointless debates.

It's like saying, what if there was a man on the grassy knoll. :rolleyes:
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I wish I had realised that when I posted my OP. Thanks for the contribution ;)

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
ps3ud0 said:
I wish I had realised that when I posted my OP. Thanks for the contribution ;)
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I am familiar with sarcasm. :p . I do have an opinion on what you posted in your OP but I refuse to post it because there is no benefit in doing so. How can there be when you have set up a premise not based in reality and then asked everyone to discuss it ? Unless of course your bored and just want to talk twaddle, in which case I apologise and I will leave this thread and go elsewhere.
 
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Awesome - Ill note down your vigourous stance on past hypotheticals and make sure everyone on the forums is made aware to prevent non-beneficial replies.

Time to stop all those threads on how the Olympics will go, how dare people guess the future :mad:, or is it just hindsight you hate?

NB: Sarcasm for other people, just in case they need to post to check ;). I know you are too sharp to miss it :p

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
ps3ud0 said:
Awesome - Ill note down your vigourous stance on past hypotheticals and make sure everyone on the forums is made aware to prevent non-beneficial replies.
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Thanks. I'll do my best to note down your vigourous stance on sarcasm and make sure everyone on the forums is made aware to prevent non-sarcastic replies.
 
Without reading the whole thread I was under the impression that the whinging Spaniard kicked purely because they WOULDN'T favour him over LH and said to him repeatedly that they wouldn't give favour to any one driver until it became clear that one of them had next to no chance of winning the DC.

This then sent The Whinging Spaniard into a huge paddy and at that point he threatened to tell Max and Bernie about the Ferrari technical information that Mclaren had?
 
I don't think Alonso would have done much if any better.
Just have to look at the issues, like pitatops, that's not drivers fault a poor car for several seasons. Etc.
Even the crashes I'm not sure Alonso would have done better. They're usually when LH is coming through the field either due to poor car or something's gone wrong. Would Alonso made a clean overtake, or just sat behind.
 
Having one driver offering his mechanics a cash bonus if he beats the other side of the garage probably didn't help.

Add to that the FIA fair-play observer they had installed in each garage of that one team...
 
Alonso was/is a more complete driver, so in simple terms he would have been the better choice, however he didn't seem to fit into the team. Whether thats purely down to Hamilton or not I don't know.
 
Are we talking about what would have happened if McLaren had kept both Hamilton and Alonso, or if they dropped Hamilton and kept Alonso?

If the former, I doubt either of them could have done much more than Hamilton did in 2009, but I expect Alonso could have taken the title in 2010. No chance they could have beaten Vettel last year.

If the latter, we have no idea where Hamilton may have ended up, so we can't really speculate. Hamilton in an RBR could have taken him to the title in any one of the last 3 years.

One thing is for sure though, McLaren would have won a constructors title in the last 5 years with an Alonso/Hamilton partnership. Most likely 2008.
 
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Read my NB in the OP ;)

ps3ud0 :cool:
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Oh yeah, lol.

In that case, Alonso would have won the title in 2007, and again in 2008, then not won it since as Hamilton would have been in RBR and won in 2009 and 2010 and then been beaten by Vettel in 2011.

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Skeeter said:
Oh yeah, lol.

In that case, Alonso would have won the title in 2007, and again in 2008, then not won it since as Hamilton would have been in RBR and won in 2009 and 2010 and then been beaten by Vettel in 2011.

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So in your opinion McLaren would have been better off with Alonso too

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
ps3ud0 said:
:D

So in your opinion McLaren would have been better off with Alonso too

ps3ud0 :cool:
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No, because without Alonso at McLaren, Hamilton would have won the title in 2007 and 2008.

To me I think having 1 driver and not the other (doesn't matter which) would have netted them the WDC in both 2007 and 2008, and at least 1 constructors title. Having both lost them the WDC and the WCC in 2007.

So no, I don't think McLaren would have been better off with Alonso over Hamilton, but they definitely would have been better off with only taking on 1 of them (regardless of which).
 
It's ferrari who would have been better off taking Alonso instead of Kimi. Had that happened I reckon Lewis would still be title less and ferrari a far stronger team over the last 6 years.
 
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It's ferrari who would have been better off taking Alonso instead of Kimi. Had that happened I reckon Lewis would still be title less and ferrari a far stronger team over the last 6 years.
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You mean Kimi who gave Ferrari a title compared to Alonso who hasn't (yet)?

Its a difficult one to call though. If Alonso wasn't at McLaren in 2007, would Hamilton have scored more points over the season against a lesser team mate? Would he have scored more against Kimi? And would Alonso have scored more in the Ferrari than Kimi did?

If it was Hamilton/Kimi at McLaren and Massa/Alonso at Ferrari in 2007 I think it would have been Alonso vs Hamilton for both the 2007 and 2008 titles. I'd say Hamilton would have got the 2007 one, and Alonso the 2008.
 
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