MCSE with i.t skills anyone?

Moogman · 27 Jul 2006 at 18:53

Its been a long time coming I have decided I want to gain an MCSE A guy from i.tskills southest came over last night for a chat and to go over what the coarse entails. Basically its a mix of home study with tutor lead support with a few open days once in a while. They cover your exam costs and have onsite recruitment so they place peopleinto work as well...but it costs £4250. Has anyone been on an i.t skills coarse? or are there cheaper alternatives?.

number41 · 27 Jul 2006 at 19:03

Havent been on a course myself. I work in IT and just buy the MS Press books and self study. Using video training and virtual servers to learn stuff I'm now 3 exams away from the MCSE. Exams cost around £100 each and the books about 30-40 so overall its a lot cheaper than £4000 and you can spend enough time on each exam to thouroghly learn it. I work with people who have MCSEs and they dont know a thing as they simply did brain dumps and got the exams quickly

Havent been on any courses so couldnt comment, but self study has done me well and I've been promoted twice at work during the course of studying

triggerthat · 27 Jul 2006 at 20:09

For that sort of price, no I wouldn't not suggest it. MCSE is overated too.

Moogman · 27 Jul 2006 at 20:40

I thought it was a tad expensive but now I dont know what to do yet again.

Stripe · 27 Jul 2006 at 22:37

what IT qualifications would anyone suggest? And how would one go about getting them if working full time?

triggerthat · 27 Jul 2006 at 22:59

Do something part-time. My university do the foundation degree (I.T. for business) which is 2 years. At the end, you can top it up with a Hons degree. The foundation degree (FdSi) also houses vendor qualifications. Also, if you are friendly, you can do the full CCNA courses.

VeNT · 27 Jul 2006 at 23:12

whats better for a real world job (ie getting the job)
MSCE
CCNA
Degree?

triggerthat · 27 Jul 2006 at 23:17

I suppose it really depends on what you want to do. MCSE/CCNA are great for technical jobs.

VeNT · 27 Jul 2006 at 23:22

triggerthat said:
I suppose it really depends on what you want to do. MCSE/CCNA are great for technical jobs.

anything that pays atm

Indy500 · 27 Jul 2006 at 23:23

Well around here, MCSE\MCSA\MCP seems to be more in demand.

VeNT · 27 Jul 2006 at 23:31

sr4470 said:
Well around here, MCSE\MCSA\MCP seems to be more in demand.

hmmm realy?
down here its more degrees :confused:

I dunno what to go for :crys:

Indy500 · 27 Jul 2006 at 23:32

VeNT said:
hmmm realy?
down here its more degrees
I dunno what to go for :crys:

This is server heartland

what with London 15 mins away.

sja360 · 27 Jul 2006 at 23:36

the hardest to do is probably the degree, as it requires 3-4 years i think? while the msce/ccna can be done probably in about 1-2 years on average by a person that learns quick, and could be done even quicker if someone is working at the same time in IT.

VeNT · 27 Jul 2006 at 23:49

sja360 said:
the hardest to do is probably the degree, as it requires 3-4 years i think? while the msce/ccna can be done probably in about 1-2 years on average by a person that learns quick, and could be done even quicker if someone is working at the same time in IT.

degree is 3
but time is not the issue

sja360 · 28 Jul 2006 at 00:07

VeNT said:
degree is 3
but time is not the issue

still its best that you know the basics before you start working on more complex servers or software.

Visage · 28 Jul 2006 at 00:07

Moogman said:
Its been a long time coming I have decided I want to gain an MCSE A guy from i.tskills southest came over last night for a chat and to go over what the coarse entails. Basically its a mix of home study with tutor lead support with a few open days once in a while. They cover your exam costs and have onsite recruitment so they place peopleinto work as well...but it costs £4250. Has anyone been on an i.t skills coarse? or are there cheaper alternatives?.

Run, dont walk, away.

You can do most of the studying online for free.

VeNT · 28 Jul 2006 at 10:16

what about those Computeach people?

Abraham · 28 Jul 2006 at 11:12

it's possible to get mcse/a for as little as £3000 including training because that's what my work are about to pay for me to do MCSA
if you're reasonably savvy though it's best to teach yourself and do the exams as and when you're ready though

Una · 28 Jul 2006 at 11:18

Seems a little pointless doing a degree then working as an IT Techy. I don't think anything in my degree would help towards server/network stuff. I would try get cisco qualifications (CCIP etc..) if your going into networking.

daztrouk · 28 Jul 2006 at 13:44

Question for those who are/have worked on a helpdesk/2nd line support. Im trying to get in as a technician, but these seem the only possible positions at the moment,stepping ladder and all that. I've got a degree, a bit of previous experience in IT (working by myself, advertising my services in local papers, upgrades, dealing with spyware etc etc) and i've had a bit of feedback from agencies regarding the helpdesk role. However, there all saying i'll have to under-go training through them before i can actually start the position, i'll obviously have to pay for the training myself. Just wonderin, did you have to do the same thing, or did you simply start the position, and maybe under-go some 'on the job' training? After paying to gain a degree, im not thrilled about having to pay for training to become a helpdesk assistant :confused: