MCU to "Refocus” and Disney sinking faster than the Titanic (Starwars is dead Marvel is dead)

[VincentHanna]

It's funny that Kathleen Kennedy is getting the blame for that, and not the writer/director of the movie.

 

[SixTwoSix]

It's funny that Kathleen Kennedy is getting the blame for that, and not the writer/director of the movie.

You mean she's not there personally cracking the whip and overseeing every letter put to paper?

Valid point though - it's easy to point the fingers at top dog, she hasn't done herself any favours with silly comments like this however....

“There’s no source material. We don’t have comic books. we don’t have 800-page novels, we don’t have anything other than passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration might be. We go through a really normal development process that everybody else does.”

Well, they canned the entire EU when they took over, there was plenty to draw from.

 

[PlacidCasual]

KK was the top dog, one assumes she could have at some point before green lighting production gone "don't you think we should get the original gag back together?". Whether its her personal decision or just incompetence under her stewardship Disney has made a proper bugger up of Star Wars with very few exceptions.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

But noooooooo she didn’t want attention taken off her new characters. Which are ****…..

Ooo and let’s tear them down also while we’re at it.

Fairly sure she had some sort of grudge against Lucas and by extension, the fanbase and what better way to get back at him/them than to ruin millions of fans expectations.

While I don't know if this was KK decision or RJs decision alone, the fact that there wasn't enough runtime to show luke spending 15 seconds grieving for Han but there was enough time to see him drink some alien titty milk, really reinforces the idea that they wanted to spit all over the OT and its fans. What a terribly bad decision.

For those who didn't know

 

[Bigpig]

Same person blocked starwars parks based in Tatooine? Same reason

Same person pictured in T-Shirts “The force is Female”

Nooo no no.

 

[Bigpig]

Ouch 300million dollars

Disney Sinks $300 Million Into ‘Over Budget’ ‘Little Mermaid’ Movie

Disney has revealed that the cost of making the live action version of The Little Mermaid swelled to nearly $300m by the end of August last year, eight months before the movie opened.

www.forbes.com

 

[PlacidCasual]

If that is true it's mad. I remember seeing that picture of Samuel L Jackson for Secret Invasion and they used green screen and a motion capture prop for a scene that could easily have been filmed on location with a real prop gun for one assumes a fraction of the price. The good directors use CGI in proportion to the needs to the scene and too many use it as a crutch. The Mandolorian uses it extensively to film the unfilmable but other stuff they seem to be carried away with. I think Disney leans much harder into the latter than teh former and I suspect it's killing them financially.

 

[C Kent]

Ouch 300million dollars

Disney Sinks $300 Million Into ‘Over Budget’ ‘Little Mermaid’ Movie

Disney has revealed that the cost of making the live action version of The Little Mermaid swelled to nearly $300m by the end of August last year, eight months before the movie opened.

www.forbes.com

300 million, im sure some of our more esteemed forum users were saying it was only a 200 million dollar movie..

 

[Bigpig]

That’s just production god knows how much more they spent on marketing!!

 

[VincentHanna]

But because of the rebate, the budget was actually less than $250 million

Its financial statements reveal that a total of $297 million (£243.5 million) had been spent on the movie by August 31, 2022 and then comes the cash reimbursement. As this author recently revealed in the UK's Express newspaper, The Little Mermaid received $56.8 million (£46.6 million) from the UK government bringing its net spending down to $240.2 million.

Clearly movies are costing far too much now, but I imagine a lot of budgets of recent movies ballooned due to COVID shutdowns, protocols etc.

 

[Bigpig]

“It’s covid fault”

 

[VincentHanna]

“It’s covid fault”

‘Mission: Impossible 7’: How COVID-19 Blew Up the Budget of Tom Cruise’s Spy Sequel

Tom Cruise had grand plans for "Mission: Impossible 7." Complicated stunts and COVID-19 proved costly.

variety.com

‘Mission: Impossible 7’: How COVID-19 Blew Up the Budget of Tom Cruise’s Spy Sequel.

A significant factor in this budget escalation is that “Mission: Impossible 7” was initially scheduled to begin shooting in Venice in February 2020, but it had to stop and start production seven different times, insiders said. Day one of principal photography, which was supposed to involve an elaborate action sequence staged during the Carnival Venice, an annual festival renowned for its elaborate masks, took place on the same day that Northern Italy went into COVID-19 lockdown. The production then scrambled to move shooting to Rome, only to once again be forced to shut down when cases spiked.

Public health restrictions and further outbreaks of the virus added unanticipated costs, said the sources, because the studio has had to keep crew and cast members employed and housed during long lag times and quarantine periods. There are also costs associated with having to shut down streets and canals in major cities, such as Rome and Venice, only have to scrap those plans and reschedule them. Though the film’s backers tried to be nimble, the complexity of mounting an international production, one that hopscotched across a half-dozen countries including Poland and the United Arab Emirates, meant that no matter how hard the “Mission: Impossible” team tried, it couldn’t outrun a pandemic that knows no borders. Further complicating matters were global supply chain issues, other insiders added, which brought unforeseen costs via lumber and additional materials.

UK producers decry “horrendous” cost of Covid protocols, talk working with the streamers

Tim Bevan, Alison Owen and Iain Canning were speaking at the Restart conference hosted by Screen International.

www.screendaily.com

Alison Owen, founder of Monumental Pictures, whose own credits include Elizabeth, Saving Mr Banks and Suffragette, said Covid protocols had added about 20% to the cost of making features

Jason Blum reveals how coronavirus is changing movies — now and forever

Jason Blum talks 'Freaky,' 'Halloween Kills,' 'Spawn,' 'Five Nights at Freddy's,' and making movies in a pandemic.

www.inverse.com

In the meantime, the world is scary enough on its own, thanks to the coronavirus pandemic. That's provided a formidable challenge for companies like Blumhouse, which are now forced to shell out for personal protective equipment so production can continue. "It’s an additional 10 to 20 percent [of the movie's budget]," Blum tells Inverse. "It ain't cheap."

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

MI7 involves a lot of real world filming as well as real world practise for stunts, while I haven't seen the Little Mermaid, my assumption is that it was filmed mostly in a studio and would have little to no stunts, so the impact of COVID would be signficantly different between the two films.

Also a 10-20% bloat puts the little mermaid between $250-275 million without the Covid expenditure.

 

[C Kent]

Also a 10-20% bloat puts the little mermaid between $250-275 million without the Covid expenditure.

So far, as with other Disney movies the figures with have are for last year, there will be more to add on.

 

[checjb]

I love it when people say "the budget was X million".
That's the budget, the cost might be (and probably are) an entirely different matter.
Similarly, the actual return on that investment is not the same as ticket revenue. China, for example, only return 25%, the US is something like 50%.
And that's before "Hollywood accounting", where they play the shell game to hide profit for tax breaks and losses to avoid shareholder scrutiny.

 

[Scam]

my assumption is that it was filmed mostly in a studio and would have little to no stunts, so the impact of COVID would be signficantly different between the two films.

No way of knowing, really. Having worked on a studio tentpole movie during COVID it was absolutely insane. Crew taking over whole hotels to isolate, 4-6 tests a day on set, the amount of hardware and technology brought in to allow people to work together whilst in separate locations (e.g. editorial), even things like getting fibre to people's homes in the countryside (!) so they can use those tools. Not to mention the sheer number of days extra used just because everything was a million times slower.

 

[Bigpig]

Peltz is back pushing for the board.

Nelson Peltz in fresh push for Disney board seats | Financial Times

Veteran activist investor has increased Trian’s stake in US entertainment group since burying hatchet in February

www.ft.com

 

[Bigpig]

I won’t go down with this ship!!

Hah complete mess again. Yeah keep making Daredevil do a walk of shame see how many keep tuning in.

Marvel’s ‘Daredevil: Born Again’ To Undergo Creative Overhaul With New Head Writers

'Daredevil: Born Again' Releases Writers, Marvel To Overhaul Series

deadline.com

 

[C Kent]

I won’t go down with this ship!!

Hah complete mess again. Yeah keep making Daredevil do a walk of shame see how many keep tuning in.

Marvel’s ‘Daredevil: Born Again’ To Undergo Creative Overhaul With New Head Writers

'Daredevil: Born Again' Releases Writers, Marvel To Overhaul Series

deadline.com

Just hire the Drew Goddard the guy that wrote s1 and 2 for Netflix!!!! This was literally the easiest win they could have had!!!

 

[C Kent]

"Less than half of the series’ 18 episodes were shot. Marvel plans to keep some footage though the series will pivot from being a procedural show to having a more serialized focus"

Clown show. Utter clown show