MEG power. Infinite power in your home?
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People who actually think that (and that will include very, very few scientists) are as stupid as people who fall for nonsense like this device
Quite. I'm not sure breaking laws of thermodynamics can be achieved by a handful of shysters who aren't government backed though. If it can be done, fine, do it, show it working and get massively rich. Instead they keep it to a select few tin foil hat wearing random website browsers.
These infinite energy threads pop up here on a regular basis. Hmmmm... Is that a potential source of infinite energy? Naive forumites? BRB, Patent Office
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That is exactly what I was thinking.
If you believe that all laws/rules devised so far are 100% correct and that they should never be questioned or challenged, then people will never advance.
Just as we have created machines which enable us to fly in the sky and beyond,
just as we have created machines which enable us to communicate, wirelessly with somebody on the other side of the world,
just as we have created a system which enables us to record ourselves 1 minute and within an hour, have that video posted on a site so that millions of others can watch that video
...we shall also, eventually devise a method to create energy, out (seemingly) thin air. I have absolutely no doubt that this will happen at some point in the future.
People need to understand that the rate of advancement of technology is increasing and with the advent of fast computers and the internet, the rate of advancement can only get faster, with time.
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soooo, he's had 10 years to develop it and sell it. i call BS.
also, if you look at his patent you will see a remarkable similarity between this motionless electromagnetic generator and a standard transformer
soo, with that, the lack of independent tests, and the fact that it breaks the laws of thermodynamics, i call BS
You two seemed to of been suckered in by scammers.
No one is saying the laws are 100% correct. But you know to disprove laws and substitute new ones require independent testing, something these scammers never allow.
Any device that reports to break laws of physics and isn't being studied and allowed to be tested, deservers to be ridiculed.
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I see where you're getting at. You are wrong. The basic laws of thermodynamics have been proven time and time and time again.
There's a difference between engineering difficulties and physical impossibilities. The laws of Thermodynamics are laws, not predictions or hearsay.
No-one has ever formulated laws saying that any of the stuff you quoted would be impossible. There is no physical reason why any of it wouldn't be. Likewise with faster than light travel, there are physical laws preventing it from happening (in a conventional manner of accelerating things, negating wormholes which don't violate special relativity anyway).
It seems to me to be a stunning indication of the failures of the British education system that anyone would look at this for more than a second without (correctly) dismissing it as a scam. As several people have pointed out, the very first part points out that it's a good old-fashioned Perpetual Motion Machine (of the First Order if you want to get technical). Were some of the posters here asleep when Physics/Science discussed the Law of Conservation of Energy? I think the laws of thermodynamics come along rather later, but how hard is to understand: energy can neither be created nor destroyed. That alone is enough to tell you that this thing is drivel.
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Didn't Da Vinchi realise that perpetual motion machines would never work? Amazing that around 600 years later people still believe that they can!
Quit being so closed minded maaaaan, phyzacks is all wrong - how else are we gonna get phasers and pewpew gunz!?
Sorry OP, but that thing is 100% rubbish. I have no doubt that in time many of the theories we currently have about the physical world - relativity among them - will be superceded by more sophisticated and accurate ones, in the same way as the VSEPR theory in Chemistry. The First Law of Thermodynamics, however, (energy cannot be created or destroyed and therefore the sum of input energies must equal the sum of output energies) is not generally considered to be among them, with good reason.
At no stage did I say that the inventor of this technology is 100% correct.
I was just making a general comment to somebody's earlier comment, that you cannot think in a way which prevents an inventor from thinking about "breaking" or re-writing a previous rule/law which another scientist may have come up with.
Given the length of time that has passed since the patent, I don't believe for 1 second that this is a viable technology, but in general, all scientists/inventors must consider it their duty to question the current laws/rules of science.
Wasn't it only a few 100 years ago when it was acknowledged that the World was flat? It was only when another person questioned this thinking that it was discovered that the World was actually a sphere.
I'm not saying that the laws of thermodynamics couldn't be wrong... I'm just saying that I'd like some pretty serious evidence before I'd believe it. So far many have tried to do it but NO ONE has succeeded. Every failure only serves to convince me more.
Flat earth theory is a bit of a myth. I'm pretty sure that over the course of literally thousands of years various people have figured out that it's round.