The guy in the renault should be reported for all manor of driving offences, and anyone who can't comprehend how a merge in turn works (i.e. like a zip) should place a christian fish on the back of their car and stick to driving round caravan parks.
Poll: Merge in turn - why does nobody get it?
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[TW]Fox;27939349 said:
rule says, 'when approaching ' nit 'right on top of' as some people seem to do...drive right to the end of a dissappearing lane and force their car into the lane knowing that others have been patiently queuing. It is rude and bad etiquette.
Look at it this way, trains have double width doors, so should i just walk right past the queue of 20 people and force myself through the doors ignoring everyone else? Hardly.
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My opinion on this is that both lanes should be used until the merge point and then each lane should then take it in turns to merge into the one lane. I think this is how its done in the US but I could be wrong on that. Not sure if it would ever be implemented here. Would stop what happens in the video though.
Keeping gaps and merging rather than queuing in one lane is obviously what needs to happen for traffic to flow smoothly.
However, this is never going to happen with the attitude of drivers. You're asking for the average driver to allow others in front of them.. Common courtesy and common sense on the roads?!
It doesn't help that you get so many people getting in the empty lane and flooring it up to the very end and forcing their way in rather than merging slowly beforehand, politely. This just taunts and aggravates everyone.
However, this is never going to happen with the attitude of drivers. You're asking for the average driver to allow others in front of them.. Common courtesy and common sense on the roads?!
It doesn't help that you get so many people getting in the empty lane and flooring it up to the very end and forcing their way in rather than merging slowly beforehand, politely. This just taunts and aggravates everyone.
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How is that even a comparable scenario?! The fact that you're comparing it to a queue suggests that you don't understand the concept. Merging in turn is about NOT queuing - there wouldn't be a need to queue if people merged in turn properly and used both lanes fully!
That is shocking. I photographed and reported a truck driver who was being the hero trying to block both lanes 800 yards away from a road closure in a tailback that had backed up as far as the previous slip road, doubt it went anywhere though.
I've noticed that since all of the merge in turn signs went up peoples general attitude to merging after traffic lights etc. has slowly improved. Unfortunately roadworks like this need multiple "Use both lanes" signs up to a "Merge in turn" where the lane closes to stop people from queuing and blocking.
I've noticed that since all of the merge in turn signs went up peoples general attitude to merging after traffic lights etc. has slowly improved. Unfortunately roadworks like this need multiple "Use both lanes" signs up to a "Merge in turn" where the lane closes to stop people from queuing and blocking.
It's this kind of attitude that isn't helping the situation. The lane is empty because people aren't using it correctly; you don't merge before hand. You then get the people in the non-closed lane that think "look at this idiot trying to 'queue jump', I'm not going to let them in" and close up to the person in front. Not leaving enough space in front of you causes traffic jams when people brake even slightly. All that happens is the problem is exacerbated on many levels.
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I'm talking more on a motorway slip road that merges to one lane due to cones or roadworks and people knowingly fly down the merging in lane despite there being static grid locked traffic, like they are the only person who wants to go home. Lol..
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Once you understand that 80%+ of the population are morons and adjust your thinking accordingly life becomes much easier.
The general standard of driving in this country is appalling. Some of the things I see people do honestly boggle my mind sometimes. The cops here are incredibly lax towards stupidity and ignorance on the roads and it's really evident in the actions carried out by some.
Middle lane hogging being a prime example. People doing 50 on an NSL road being another. Queuing in the wrong lanes, undertaking, to name but a few. Things that cops rarely bat an eyelid at here, but if you are seen doing that in Europe, it's ticket time, and many more offenses over there carry points than here.
What also drives me up the wall in London is minicab drivers. It's fairly obvious that these guys got their driver's license on the back of a donkey on some dirt road where maybe 3 cars go up or down it in a week, yet they come to London, hand in their licence and the DVLA gives them a UK one, no questions asked. These guys then buy some cheap Zafira or Sharan and hit the road, straight into Central London.
They're entirely within their right to use the lanes available though - if everyone else did so, there would be no room to 'fly down' and traffic would overall, move more uniformly and there wouldn't be as much of a queue if at all.
If everyone wanted to get home quicker, they'd use the all available lanes and merge properly...
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Couldn't agree more.
The amount of people that can't stay in their lane, or don't pay attention around them is shocking. The number of times I've had to slap wing mirrors for idiots not stopping at pedestrian crossings is starting to create even more calluses on my hand.
People just do not look - too distracted and too self centred.
That is an appalling display of ****wittery from the renault driver. The only circumstance that all the cars should be queued up like that is approaching a roundabout and turning right. For everything else use both lanes and zipper merge at the very end, if each car lets one other car in front at the very end then the whole system flows very smoothly.
The merc driver wasn't doing anything distinctly wrong (although we've only got 1/2 of the information, perhaps he was in the right hand lane already then moved into the left to drive past everyone).
The subsequent behaviour from both drivers was appalling though.
The subsequent behaviour from both drivers was appalling though.
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