Microsoft operating system (Vista)

uknorthboy · 8 Jan 2006 at 16:22

How long do you reckon before windows xp is replaced by the new operating system microsoft are developing?

NathanE · 8 Jan 2006 at 16:34

It'll be out by August-September. It'll take a good 3 months before people stop mocking it as being full of bugs (same thing happened with XP SP2, SP1, XP RTM, 2000 etc) and after that it'll become the defacto OS. Probably easily by 2007.

uknorthboy · 8 Jan 2006 at 16:36

Thank's for the comment

Whitewater · 8 Jan 2006 at 19:51

uknorthboy said:
How long do you reckon before windows xp is replaced by the new operating system microsoft are developing?

It won't fully replace XP for years but some people/companies will replace XP as soon as the new OS is released, some will wait for a bugs to be ironed out, home users might wait until their hardware and software's fully supported, some gamers might wait until their favourite game's released on the new OS.

CurlyWhirly · 17 Jan 2006 at 03:34

I will eventually be upgrading to Vista but not straight away as I will give it a few months for the dust to settle first.
XP serves me well so I'm in no rush.

Mr Stigy · 17 Jan 2006 at 09:45

Not to mention all the DRM thats been written into the OS.

FirebarUK · 17 Jan 2006 at 09:48

I dont think companies will be rushing to upgrade at all. That would be a bad idea and pretty awful planning.

Otacon · 17 Jan 2006 at 09:52

Vista, if marketed to the corperations correctly, has a great opportunity to gain a large user base - as a replacement for those machines still running Windows 2000 (and there are a lot of them). I think the deciding factor will be how Vista's graphics are handled by an older machine, or how those graphics settings can be managed by group policy.

Time will tell.

Caged · 17 Jan 2006 at 09:54

Mr Stigy said:
Not to mention all the DRM thats been written into the OS.

Why do people always mention this? You think Vista is going to care if you're running your :filez: version of Photoshop, or listening to Mp3s you dowloaded? Of course it won't, the DRM is there to enable you to be able to watch hi-def content like that contained on HD-DVD, and to enable you to play back songs you buy off various PlaysForSure compatible stores.

If you remove the DRM, you remove the ability to watch this content. IIRC , Linux was unable to play DVDs until DeCSS came along, and that's still viewed as a bit shady in the eyes of the law. The same will be the case with HD-DVD, except it will take a lot longer to crack. All this doesn't give much hope to HD-DVD based MythTV media centres any time soon.

NathanE · 17 Jan 2006 at 10:16

Mr Stigy said:
Not to mention all the DRM thats been written into the OS.

Do you actually know what "DRM" means? I think you don't

Burnsy2023 · 17 Jan 2006 at 10:38

Otacon said:
Vista, if marketed to the corperations correctly, has a great opportunity to gain a large user base - as a replacement for those machines still running Windows 2000 (and there are a lot of them). I think the deciding factor will be how Vista's graphics are handled by an older machine, or how those graphics settings can be managed by group policy.

Time will tell.

Indeed, its one thing making a business OS, is another making it managable is a business environment.

One thing that i'd love to see in Vista server is centralised management of network printers within group policy. Any idea if this might happen?

Burnsy

Otacon · 17 Jan 2006 at 10:40

You'll have to elaborate on what you mean. Print services can already be centralised on a server and are already pretty configurable (well, I've never come across a scenario I couldn't cater for) - what would you like adding specifically to GP?

NathanE · 17 Jan 2006 at 10:45

burnsy2023 said:
Indeed, its one thing making a business OS, is another making it managable is a business environment.

One thing that i'd love to see in Vista server is centralised management of network printers within group policy. Any idea if this might happen?

Burnsy

But Windows is already the most managable OS because of things like Active Directory, Group Policy and MMC. Vista is set to improve on that.

Burnsy2023 · 17 Jan 2006 at 10:52

NathanE said:
But Windows is already the most managable OS because of things like Active Directory, Group Policy and MMC. Vista is set to improve on that.

I didn't say it wasn't, I would say that was a downfall to an opensource distribution.

Otacon, I was referring to not being able to set default network printers for OU containers without using registry entries.

Burnsy

Otacon · 17 Jan 2006 at 10:58

Hmm, I see what you mean, but there are lots of complexities to that. Print configuration is something that heavily varies from machine to machine in my experience (different combinations of local printers, remote printers, fax devices, other print processors). Be difficult to cater for all these scenarios with a static group policy.

I use a series of vBscripts to manage things like that, where appropriate.

Burnsy2023 · 17 Jan 2006 at 11:04

Otacon said:
Hmm, I see what you mean, but there are lots of complexities to that. Print configuration is something that heavily varies from machine to machine in my experience (different combinations of local printers, remote printers, fax devices, other print processors). Be difficult to cater for all these scenarios with a static group policy.

I use a series of vBscripts to manage things like that, where appropriate.

Its all possible I know, it'd just be nice to see what microsoft come up with to simplify the process and make it is generic for all businesses.

It would be useful for medium business who don't necessarily have the IT support to correctly maintain their IT infrastructure but have enough computers to make it necessary.

Burnsy

Mason64 · 17 Jan 2006 at 11:36

myself i will prob have a computer running the new o/s but like most people have said here xp will be around for at least another 5 years before people start putting vista or what ever the o/s is called on there systems.

toy_soldier · 17 Jan 2006 at 12:21

I would like to upgrade pretty soon after it is released but I dont know for sure yet, it does look like a nice OS though. XP is fine for the moment though.

purejamie · 17 Jan 2006 at 12:57

I think many corporates will wait for SP1 (or whatever MS decide to name it) before rolling out to their entire estate.

Caged · 17 Jan 2006 at 13:13

I'll make my mind up based on whether I like the public previews or not. Hopefully I'll get it free from a campus agreement, if not then I'll wait until WinFS is part of the product before buying it.