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You forgot about Windows MENathanE said:
Microsoft operating system (Vista)
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Yeah but people had reason to mock that OS - because it genuinely was full of bugs, from the get-go!tenchi-fan said:You forgot about Windows ME
As a result, instead of being the defacto OS after 3 months - it was barely even on the shop shelves 
(aware of exaggeration)
NathanE said:Yeah but people had reason to mock that OS - because it genuinely was full of bugs, from the get-go!
Great idea by microsoft, release a tragic OS that doesnt work (ME) then release a totally new working version soon after (XP). Means the only option for people who recently bought ME is to get XP as they cant stand the stability issues etc... That way microsoft get the money for both!
(This happened to me) 
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That also happened to meAmp34 said:Great idea by microsoft, release a tragic OS that doesnt work (ME) then release a totally new working version soon after (XP). Means the only option for people who recently bought ME is to get XP as they cant stand the stability issues etc... That way microsoft get the money for both!
I had Windows ME pre-installed on my first ever PC and I was fed up of the hassle
So after only around a month I decided to buy a retail version of XP and I am happy to say I have had very little trouble with it and what trouble I had was caused by faulty driver software.
IF Vista is as stable and dependable as XP is, I will be looking forward to the upgrade when the time comes!
For me I just got Windows XP in February, and that to be fair to Microsoft for what I use it for is great. However, I do have things like; Object Dock, Window Blinds, Icon Packager etc to give it a nicer Vista ish look.
I just don't feel I need Vista, why do I need Vista? I can't think of many reasons that I need to spend a huge amount of money on a new O/s when games will run fine on XP as well as many other software, well perhaps not the next Office am not sure, but open sourced alternatives then which wern't fully out at the time of XP's launch or not in the masses they are today.
DRM does concern me though in some elements and will have to wait to see what happens with that. I never thought Sony would do their rootkit thing, and well whoknows what Microsoft could have under the bonnet.
Vista's look is very, very nice, but then again you can get a similer style with Window blinde, and MS are going to be releasing various things am sure for XP such as the new file system as well as a few other features, so I've not seen one post here which makes me want to have Vista.
With Xp Sp2 there's increased security, and at least it's got rid for me the BSOD's. In one year of game playing and intense Photoshopping I've yet to have ONE BSOD, and XP is serving me just fine.
I just don't feel I need Vista, why do I need Vista? I can't think of many reasons that I need to spend a huge amount of money on a new O/s when games will run fine on XP as well as many other software, well perhaps not the next Office am not sure, but open sourced alternatives then which wern't fully out at the time of XP's launch or not in the masses they are today.
DRM does concern me though in some elements and will have to wait to see what happens with that. I never thought Sony would do their rootkit thing, and well whoknows what Microsoft could have under the bonnet.
Vista's look is very, very nice, but then again you can get a similer style with Window blinde, and MS are going to be releasing various things am sure for XP such as the new file system as well as a few other features, so I've not seen one post here which makes me want to have Vista.
With Xp Sp2 there's increased security, and at least it's got rid for me the BSOD's. In one year of game playing and intense Photoshopping I've yet to have ONE BSOD, and XP is serving me just fine.
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Yeah but Windows 2000 came out in the same month (or close enough) so it's your own fault for choosing MEAmp34 said:Great idea by microsoft, release a tragic OS that doesnt work (ME) then release a totally new working version soon after (XP). Means the only option for people who recently bought ME is to get XP as they cant stand the stability issues etc... That way microsoft get the money for both!
It takes a few months for drivers to become fully stable so you should probably reserve judgement on that until sometime after the launch.Curly Whirly said:
Having said... audio, USB, web cam, scanner, printer (basically everything except graphics - although even those have stricter rules which will reduce the chance of buggy drivers bringing down the OS) drivers are now entirely user mode. So technically Creative could continue hiring monkeys for programmers and your PC would still not crash!
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Are there going to be any specific hardware requirements with Vista? Such as 64bit CPU or 2GB RAM or anything like that? I don't really know much about it, just that it'll be the next big thing from MS and we're all proabably gonna have it at one time or another (Linux/Mac users aside of course).
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IMO it'll need a current CPU (generally a S939 or S775), 1GB RAM (preferably DDR2) and a recent graphics card (DX9 support a must) with 128MB graphics memory.
Anything on top of that will just add to smoothness.
It'll really fly with a dual core CPU.
For the 64-bit edition of Vista you'll want to _at least_ double the RAM.
Anything on top of that will just add to smoothness.
It'll really fly with a dual core CPU.
For the 64-bit edition of Vista you'll want to _at least_ double the RAM.
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Well I have heard rumours that Vista will require a minimum of a 3 Ghz processor and 1 GB of memory but if you use dual channel memory than you need at least 2 GBBig Chris said:
I don't know about the graphics card requirements but I expect they will be quite high as well.
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I'm also looking forward to the Win FS file system when it is eventually released as I have read good reviews about it.Caged said:
There was even talk of Microsoft adding the WIN FS feature to XP as an upgrade but I can't really see that as surely that would encourage people to stick with XP and not upgrade to Vista?
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And that's all they are. Rumours.Curly Whirly said:Well I have heard rumours that Vista will require a minimum of a 3 Ghz processor and 1 GB of memory but if you use dual channel memory than you need at least 2 GB
I don't know about the graphics card requirements but I expect they will be quite high as well.
The Beta's don't need anywhere near that level of hardware so the final product certainly won't!
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Good news thenNathanE said:
I suppose so but it's just that I thought that enabling Win FS on XP would harm Vista sales but I suppose it won't make much difference as we will all end up on Vista sooner or later (not including Mac and Linux users obviously).Atomic said:
Logically it should end up hurting sales, but for many average people they wont care about WIN FS but rarther the nice glossy look of it, despite Window blinds being out there that can get xp to look a little like Vista and same with Icon packager.
I also heard the sidebar would be transfered to Vista, and even some elements of the graphics engine, but I doubt that.
I've still not read one good reason as to why I must have Vista over Windows XP.
I also heard the sidebar would be transfered to Vista, and even some elements of the graphics engine, but I doubt that.
I've still not read one good reason as to why I must have Vista over Windows XP.
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What about PC gaming?Atomic said:
With the superb Aero graphics, would the games be able to offer photo realistic graphics that wouldn't slow down despite all the action on screen?
These games would be able to take advantage of the tremendous processing power of the latest PCI Express cards and dual core processors for example?
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to me thats the trouble you have to have the best of the best of the best... to run it, and to get the best out of it you need all the new motherboards graphics cards etc ...... so that it can check what your playing though them its also going to eventuly kill of crts ...and you may have to play hd movies at a lower quality since it hasnt got "protection" (refering to custom pc here) ..... itll only realy be implimented to businesses and dell buyers personaly it does seem a bit ott however since they will be keeping direc x 10 from us no doubt (from xp users , since it hasnt been decided yet) i think it will force people to either go to linux few i rekon will do or to actuly vista ....