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It was a joke, anyone who mentions changing OS gets the treatment.
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*** Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread ***
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It was a joke, anyone who mentions changing OS gets the treatment.
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Data is worth more than the cost of the OS, why do you think they give it away for free as an upgrade.
They marketed it in such a way people moved over to it.
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They give free upgrades because it makes it easier for them to end support for the old OS sooner. Hardly anyone would bother paying for an upgrade if there is no major differences. Imagine how costly it would be to keep supporting all those old operating systems at the same time.
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Well that can't be true. Otherwise it would be free for everyone, forever. You have to buy 11 on retail and oem but at first it was free upgrades.
In fact most would still get it free as an upgrade but you still can buy it.
Well of course new people with no license have to buy it, but what does that have to do with offering free upgrades?
Hence the way the end user is treated
yet there is less and less kickback against it
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You got free upgrades. If I never had the OS I would have to buy it. It still expires at the same time.
If Microsoft didn't offer free upgrades they aren't going to make a load of money from people buying new Windows upgrade licenses, 99% will simply continue using their current OS. They have a hard enough time convincing people to upgrade for free let alone charging money for it. If the majority of people are using an old OS then they would likely extend support for longer than they would for a small number of people.
Whatever telemetry/spyware they have in the latest OS could easily be added to the older OS through an update, they don't need people to upgrade to collect it.
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To be fair when they did the Windows 7 promotion loads of people bought it at those prices including loads of people I know who'd only ever pirated OSes to that point. Though some of them were a bit sneaky and bought a load, waited for the prices to go up again and flogged them to cover their own.
I think if MS went at more reasonable prices they'd see plenty of sales - people just don't see an OS like another piece of hardware like MS want to see it and so don't see the value in paying the kind of prices a CPU or GPU, etc. can command.
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They not going to do that, they want to push people over to the new OS whatever it takes. Old OS are not been developed so they concentrate on the latest OS development.
They did add some updates to 7 latterly, once 10 was a thing, which have telemetry
but nothing like the extent of Windows 10 and unlike 10 you can much more easily manage them to avoid them. The big difference with 10 though is that stuff is so deeply embedded in the OS it causes all kinds of problems and/or when it goes wrong hard to diagnose and fix as well as being undesirable with little control over it.Here is just one example: https://www.howtogeek.com/428265/windows-7s-july-2019-security-patch-includes-telemetry/ absolutely unacceptable behaviour by MS developers but few complain about it and some weirdly even support it.
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Well Ive gone back to windows 10 as I spent weeks trying to figure out why Task Schedular and other apps wouldnt wake up the computer from sleep.... 1 good thing is I have "never combine taskbar but hide labels" back, but to be fair windows 10 isnt really any different than 11 plus and its more polished(no niggling bugs). Just a shame its coming to a end in 2-3 yrs time.
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I'm kind of hoping by the time W10 EOL rolls around we'll be on W12 and they would've learnt from their mistakes, or at least developed things enough so it's not such a downgrade.
I messed around with W11 a few weeks ago and some of the changes they've made were so infuriating that i put it on the back-burner in the vain hope things will improve.
I messed around with W11 a few weeks ago and some of the changes they've made were so infuriating that i put it on the back-burner in the vain hope things will improve.
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Like what things though? Yes there are annoyances, but nothing that you can't tweak to how you want - Aside from the Windows updates being forced which you can turn off but then you get no updates so there is that.
WIndows 10 used to be my fav OS after the first service pack (had it since launch and wasn't a fan), but once they sorted the start menu out it was great after the SP..
Now though Win11 with its various aesthetic improvements, superior task manager, and with the new Moment 2 update due in March, finally search available in task manager. It's way ahead of Windows 10, and supports the newer technologies that 10 does not to the same degree, especially for gaming.
People will argue that you should not need to tweak things out of the box, this mioght have some validity but they don't realise that tweaking Windows has been a thing for decades, so even the most perfect release of Windows had a large community of tweakers and modders improving the OS to allow you to customise exactly how you want, nothing has changed with Windows 11, other than a lot of people becoming more lazy and unwilling to do what we've all been doing happily for years anyway lol.
WIndows 10 used to be my fav OS after the first service pack (had it since launch and wasn't a fan), but once they sorted the start menu out it was great after the SP..
Now though Win11 with its various aesthetic improvements, superior task manager, and with the new Moment 2 update due in March, finally search available in task manager. It's way ahead of Windows 10, and supports the newer technologies that 10 does not to the same degree, especially for gaming.
People will argue that you should not need to tweak things out of the box, this mioght have some validity but they don't realise that tweaking Windows has been a thing for decades, so even the most perfect release of Windows had a large community of tweakers and modders improving the OS to allow you to customise exactly how you want, nothing has changed with Windows 11, other than a lot of people becoming more lazy and unwilling to do what we've all been doing happily for years anyway lol.
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Let me know how well tweaking it works in a corporate environment
Nothing to do with being lazy or unwilling
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How do you fix the right click context menu from hiding all of the useful options?
This is one of the more annoying things I've found whilst using it, along with the tiny scrollbars
I don't want to spam 3rd party tools really here, Windows should reasonably cater for stuff out of the box.
This is one of the more annoying things I've found whilst using it, along with the tiny scrollbars
I don't want to spam 3rd party tools really here, Windows should reasonably cater for stuff out of the box.
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How do you fix the right click context menu from hiding all of the useful options?
This is one of the more annoying things I've found whilst using it, along with the tiny scrollbars
I don't want to spam 3rd party tools really here, Windows should reasonably cater for stuff out of the box.
How to bring back classic context menu on Windows 11 - Pureinfotech
On Windows 11, to bring back the classic right-click context menu with all the options, you can edit this key in the Registry or through CMD.
pureinfotech.com
From memory, it was a few weeks ago. How the start menu layout is now stored in binary value in the registry along with settings for related cloud storage like recent apps and documents. How using powershell to opt-out of spell checking using "Set-WinUserLanguageList" now locks up your POSH terminal. How the ability to add toolbars to the taskbar have been removed, and the right click functionality, and the new start menu not showing some programs. *The new context menus.
Before anyone says it, yes some of those can be worked around, especially WRT the taskbar and start menu, but you shouldn't need to work around something just to restore such core features, especially when you're trying to replace it with something that's meant to be an improvement. (See my comment about hoping they develop things so it's not a downgrade).
*Something that's only necessary because Microsoft themselves added so much guff to the context menu over the years that it became cluttered and instead of letting people remove things from it through a simple GUI they decided to reinvent the wheel.
Don't get me wrong, some of the stuff in W11 is majorly improved, i particularly like the new snap feature where it pops up suggested layouts when you hover over the maximise button and how they let you return to a compact layout for explorer (I expected them to just force the new layouut on people and i do question if they'll continue to let people choose), however for me personally the negatives outweigh the positives for it to be something I'd choose to use.
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