Mid sized EV suggestions

Alexrose1uk said:
Be very, very, VERY careful with MG4s, assuming that is what this is (I'm guessing so with the price), there are a lot of lemons out there, and I wouldn't wish a lemon on her; and in some of them the self driving/auto correction stuff is frankly dangerous, which is why prices have plummeted relative to the age of the model; they've picked up a bit of a bad reputation. I've got the year and a half owner, finance-took-it-back T-Shirt on this, and plenty of other people with other lemons in the MG4 specialist forums...

Not saying they're all like that, as some of them do seem to be fine, but between my experiences, the knowledge a lot of the dealers are bad, and some wont even help with needed updates etc...you've really got to be careful with them; MG/SAIC unfortunately cut too many corners in terms of parts/firmware/support and it really showed.
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Thanks for this very valuable input. I will advise her to avoid. To be fair it ruled itself out when the price went up £1000 literally overnight.

I was pushing her more towards an ID.3 as I have an almost 3 year old Cupra Born and it has been solid for the 11 months I have owned it. Though I suspect she will stick with ICE and I am too jaded with answering all the FUD to care.
 
tamzzy said:
Not your money and hence, not your problem :)
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I do give impartial advice and do explain what realistic range to expect and all the benefits and drawbacks of EV ownership. But when it got back around to repeating the same FUD I had already addressed, I just lost the will.
 
ICDP said:
I do give impartial advice and do explain what realistic range to expect and all the benefits and drawbacks of EV ownership. But when it got back around to repeating the same FUD I had already addressed, I just lost the will.
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Some people just won't learn until they have to. Don't beat yourself up over it.
 
Alexrose1uk said:
Some people just won't learn until they have to. Don't beat yourself up over it.
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I think it’s more fear than ignorance. But as you allude to no matter how much we explain how cheap and viable EVs are as an everyday vehicle, people have to experience it to believe it.

Moving to EV is still more leap of faith than logic for most people.
 
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saw a recent carwow article quoted across media(TImes etc ) discussing chinese ev insurance rates

FUD ? Not sure they have an axe to grind ? I'd doubt they would present click-bait material if that was going to misrepresent companies they do business with

For the Jaecoo 7, meanwhile, half the insurers we contacted declined the quote. For the other five who would cover the car, we found that the average annual premium came to around £858. This makes the Jaecoo 7 around £166 more expensive to insure annually than its European alternative, the Volkswagen Tiguan, which had an average premium of £692 per year.

The Xpeng G6, an electric SUV launched in the UK in February 2025, faced similar resistance: five of the insurers contacted stated they would not cover “this type of vehicle.” For the insurers that did offer cover, the average annual premium for the G6 was approximately £1,102 – around £275 more than the premium for an alternative electric car, the Kia EV3, which we found costs around £827 to insure per year.

Even though some insurers were a bit hesitant, it’s not all doom and gloom for Chinese cars in this space. We asked 10 insurers about the BYD Seal U: three wouldn’t offer cover, but the average yearly premium from the others was £645. That’s almost £543 cheaper than a similar Toyota RAV4, which we found to be the most expensive mainstream model to insure – of the ones we tested – with premiums of up to £1,188 per year.
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Could simply be because they don't have anywhere near as much data on these new Chinese models to accurately price them in comparison to brands/models with years of stats to calculate against
 
tom_e said:
Could simply be because they don't have anywhere near as much data on these new Chinese models to accurately price them in comparison to brands/models with years of stats to calculate against
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Could also be some insurers have had their hands burned when it comes to parts availability and so are stuck paying for hire vehicles for much longer.
 
Dis86 said:
Could also be some insurers have had their hands burned when it comes to parts availability and so are stuck paying for hire vehicles for much longer.
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Yep could be literally anything, although I had that exact issue with a Hyundai not that long ago so it's definitely not just a Chinese thing.
 
Well, looks like we've decided.

Got an appointment with Kia next week to look at a post facelift EV6 GT-Line in wolf grey AWD.

Decided against the Ioniq5 as whilst the boot is slightly larger, the EV6 just looks so much nicer inside.

Cheers all and thanks for the help and advice.
 
Can you test drive an EV6 rwd drive back to back ? similarities with id4 where the rwd is more nimbler/temperate.
e: meant i4
 
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jpaul said:
Can you test drive an EV6 rwd drive back to back ? similarities with id4 where the rwd is more nimbler/temperate.
e: meant i4
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No, all EV dealerships have a strict policy that you're only allowed to test drive one EV and you have to base your purchasing decision off of that one test drive alone.
 
ICDP said:
I think it’s more fear than ignorance. But as you allude to no matter how much we explain how cheap and viable EVs are as an everyday vehicle, people have to experience it to believe it.

Moving to EV is still more leap of faith than logic for most people.
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Yes, my younger brother got one after seeing me happy with mine for years. Him and my parents are still gutted they didn't take me up on a free charger install I had available during one of the purchases!
 
Alexrose1uk said:
Yes, my younger brother got one after seeing me happy with mine for years. Him and my parents are still gutted they didn't take me up on a free charger install I had available during one of the purchases!
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Yeah, I upgraded my old PodPoint last year to a new one to take advantage of my solar panels. I offered the old one to a few people (one of whom knows an electrician) but they said they had no reason or desire to have it. Now I was recently asked by one of them if it was available because the most recent fuel crisis has them considering an EV. This was because they are spending almost £200 a month on diesel and they remembered I told them my EV was costing significantly less to run. I don’t have it now and the installer they went to said it was 4-6 weeks wait.

It’s not possibility that drives change, it’s necessity.
 
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