***Midweek Football 24th Feb***
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I think Everton are better than Atletico.
Since we started dabbling in europe and having decentish cup runs it's no surprise that with such a small squad we end up with so many long term injuries to important players.
Most of these teams we have met in europe, fresh we could take with full strength and quality players. The trouble is when one or two key players get injured we have nothing to fall back on.
This showed when we have been knocked out in europe over the last few years, also in the fa cup final last year. Game by game we lost so many players by the time we got to the final we barely had a team that had played regularly together.
We have some quality players that need to play in europe, but by getting there in such a small team we get stretched too far sadly. It would help if they didn't dump extra teams in that get knocked out of the proper cup.
Most of these teams we have met in europe, fresh we could take with full strength and quality players. The trouble is when one or two key players get injured we have nothing to fall back on.
This showed when we have been knocked out in europe over the last few years, also in the fa cup final last year. Game by game we lost so many players by the time we got to the final we barely had a team that had played regularly together.
We have some quality players that need to play in europe, but by getting there in such a small team we get stretched too far sadly. It would help if they didn't dump extra teams in that get knocked out of the proper cup.
I don't.
Adebayor given 4 match ban. That's 2 of their players that have been banned as a result of their actions against us...
Also saw Mancini's post-match comments last night; "We deserved to win this match"....ahahahaha what a tool. The guy genuinely has no clue what he's doing, I'm convinced of that after 3 matches against them.
Also saw Mancini's post-match comments last night; "We deserved to win this match"....ahahahaha what a tool. The guy genuinely has no clue what he's doing, I'm convinced of that after 3 matches against them.
He doesn't know what he's doing at "City". He either doesn't care or there's a communication breakdown somewhere along the line.
That he's unable to adapt his methods to the harder, faster pace of English football?
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Or maybe that he just needs more time? He's been there what, two months?
I was going to say, I can't be the only one who thinks that he needs more time. He's in a completely new league with a new squad who hardly know each other yet. Yet they're joint 5th with a game in hand.
There's no wonder that we have a manager merry-go round with fans like that.
There's no wonder that we have a manager merry-go round with fans like that.
They're above Stoke after having a pretty unsettled season.
Stoke can't score away from home, does Pulis not know how to play football outside of the Britannia?
Exactly, some of the best managers in the league wouldn't be here now if we went with the attitude of "he doesn't know what he's doing" because they are not an instant success.
The english league is running out of top names who have won titles all over different leagues to keep calling rubbish after 2 months in charge.
People don't seem to be able to accept sometimes they take a job on thats a work in progress. Its not the players he bought and it takes a couple of years to sort out.
Judge how good he is then, this two months to make an assessment is what real madrid do and largely why they haven't dominated the world despite being able to assemble the best players in the world.
totally agree with you - the problem is that the best managers in the EPL have grown with the job, when there was little money around (or certainly litttle compared to know , where "stars" where costing 500k -1m in transfer fees) so they were given the time to grow into the job
There is no time now when you pay £25m for an averagely good striker (plus £30m in wages), and you spend £100m or so in one transfer window. I would also suggest that 25 years ago there was less of a gap between 5-10 group and 1-4 than there is now, its pretty predictable what the top three willl be when the season begins (not the order within the three, just who will be there) , maybe less so when Fergie and to a lesser extent when Wenger started.
Clubs fall harder and faster than they ever appeared to before and so managers get less time to prove they can succeed - Its not right at all but they are all aware of this when they sign the dotted line (and thats why they get the big bucks - not compared to players, but certainly compared to other types of "Manager")
Did Mancini have the advantage of all his main opposition dealing with huge penalties in Italy? Perhaps if Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and co were either relegated or start on minus points then mancini might do something over here. Man City seem to have taken a step backwards since Mancini took over from Hughes. Winning trophies means nothing when it comes to evaluating managers. Take Dario Gradi for instance, would you say he was no good as a manager after all he did for Crewe and the resources he had to work with.
Using your argument of trophies making good managers are you saying Wenger has not done a good job the last few years?
They are also above Stoke having spent approx £200,000,000. I suppose that might have a little bit to do with it.
Yeah, they've spent about £200m more than Arsenal who are ahead of them, money is a lot, it's not everything.
Also, Stoke have spent about £40m recently since coming into the prem, it's not £200m but it's not bad ..
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Not as good of a job as Ferguson and Mourinho it seems.
I also said prestigious titles, such as winning Seria A 3 years in a row. I do agree that titles aren't everything and there are other things to be considered, but when you win a big European league 3 times in succession you've obviously got something and cannot be completely clueless as you think of him.
We're the only premier league team that is unbeaten in 2010 in all competitions, so I'm pretty sure he knows "how to play football outside of the Britannia".
That's the transfer numbers, yea. Come back with the total amount spent on players, including wages, in the same time span and it's going to be just a little bit different.
Anyway, it's pretty obvious you're just a bit bitter because you're lot are going to lose to us again today.
It doesn't make it good football
@ the Britannia, do they still play crowd noises through the speakers?
That's the transfer numbers, yea. Come back with the total amount spent on players, including wages, in the same time span and it's going to be just a little bit different.
Anyway, it's pretty obvious you're just a bit bitter because you're lot are going to lose to us again today.
40 Million is still a lot of money.