Millionaires begging for money

In most if the US fire brigade is essentially private and you have to pay insurance to have coverage. They can literally watch your house burn down if you haven't been paying insurance. Or they will battle the fire and then bankrupt you with fees

What's the deal if your neighbours house is burning down and will likely cause damage to yours but they don't have fire insurance? Would your insurer go and put their fire out for them?
 
What's the deal if your neighbours house is burning down and will likely cause damage to yours but they don't have fire insurance? Would your insurer go and put their fire out for them?

It varies massively across the US, a lot of built up areas the fire services are paid out of taxes but in some rural areas there are various models for how they are funded. Generally if a fire is threatening to spread in such a context it would be put out but the home owner(s) would end up paying significant premiums on any future insurance, in some places the neighbour would be charged a few hundred to a few thousand for the call out.

The kind of scenario DP talks of AFAIK only happens in a small number of backwards kind of places, not a normal thing in the US.
 
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So can the same be said for every single charity drive? Should celebrities not help them by using their fame to increase reach?

:edit: Just seen your point about pledging to match, who says they don't? It's a bit crass to declare you're donating and they're already giving up their time which is worth more than almost anyone would donate.
Are they really giving up their time? Or are they being paid so entice us mere mortals to part with our hard earned cash whilst they enrich themselves? :)
If they were really donating I'm sure we will hear no end about it just for them to enhance their fame/clout.
Just food for thought
 
The poor person handing over cash to rich streamers was a thing before any fire started - it's pathetic. I personally know several poor people who donate to uber-rich twitch streamers all the time.
 
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Some dude in China donated tens of thousands to some woman just so she can call out his name on stream, it ruined his life, his family's life. He cleared out their savings to do it and he was eating nothing but plain food just so to be able to do it.

Some people are weird.

I have never donated, my account is not linked to it, never set it up. I do get 1 free prime sub a month so I just use that on a single channel I watch the most that particular month.
 
No, poverty is poverty, not you trying to pretend it isn't.

You're trying to claim the overwhelming majority of the world's richest country are in poverty when it;s completely false - the reality is the majority of them are wealthier than us or indeed most places in Europe let alone the rest of the world.
 
What's the deal if your neighbours house is burning down and will likely cause damage to yours but they don't have fire insurance? Would your insurer go and put their fire out for them?

Yes, but the uninsured home might cop a bill from them too.
 
You're trying to claim the overwhelming majority of the world's richest country are in poverty when it;s completely false - the reality is the majority of them are wealthier than us or indeed most places in Europe let alone the rest of the world.

I linked the stats, you're day dreaming, why dont you care about 50 million people living in poverty.

Delusional if you think there are not people suffering in the USA.
 
I stumbled across this article about Simon Cowell begging people to raise funds for his celebrity friends who have lost their houses due to the LA fires.


He's literally begging the public, who are undoubtably poorer than him or any of his celebrity mates.

The lack of self awareness is astounding. But he's not alone in a trend that started a long time ago.

I'm thinking of millionaire youtube and twitch streamers who still have their donations function on.

The sad thing is Joe Bloggs will make himself skint thinking his donation will make any difference to the streamer.

I don't know if the streamers realise they are millionaires or are doing it out of greed. But it's one of the modern spectacles I think, to see a poor man feeling he has to hand over money to a millionaire*.

*Some streamers are self aware and have turned off the donations facility.
Remember when people where donating to Kylee jenner to help make her the youngest billionaire or soemthing
 
I linked the stats, you're day dreaming, why dont you care about 50 million people living in poverty.

Delusional if you think there are not people suffering in the USA.

Where did anyone say that there are not people suffering in the USA - you said the majority are in poverty and that's clearly false, you even linked the stats that show your claim to be false but for some reason don't seem to understand that!
 
The official poverty stats for the US are 11.1% overall, but 18.9% for California. The official method looks at family income vs family size, set at a level that basic food/clothing/shelter/etc can be provided which seems fair enough.

In the UK its 18.9% overall, but we effectively class anyone earning minimum wage as being in poverty, far from abject poverty, which is often conflated incorrectly.

We all would like no poverty as a goal, and even today, no abject poverty at all.. I grew up at times in abject poverty, i.e. not able to afford food for every meal, so I know what its like.. however, I don't regret my childhood, it made me who I am and encouraged me to work hard and make the most of life but importantly, it's a bit 'rich' (pun intended) to see people coming out of the nail salon with iPhone in hand and heading for the nearest KFC get all the title of being in poverty.. However, I know there are genuine people who fall between the cracks and are truly in a miserable position and they are drowned out by mass of entitled people that just want the world to pay for them to do bugger all.
 
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In the UK its 18.9% overall, but we effectively class anyone earning minimum wage as being in poverty, far from abject poverty, which is often conflated incorrectly.

What would you class as poverty and also as abject poverty in the UK?
 
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Remember when people where donating to Kylee jenner to help make her the youngest billionaire or soemthing

Who wakes up in the morning and thinks it will be a good idea to do donate to help someone become a billionaire. Presumably young teen followers and the like. :(
 
I stumbled across this article about Simon Cowell begging people to raise funds for his celebrity friends who have lost their houses due to the LA fires.


He's literally begging the public, who are undoubtably poorer than him or any of his celebrity mates.

Considering Trump's been doing this and getting away with it for years, I think it's only fair that other celebrities give it a try as well.
 
In most if the US fire brigade is essentially private and you have to pay insurance to have coverage. They can literally watch your house burn down if you haven't been paying insurance. Or they will battle the fire and then bankrupt you with fees
Source on this? From what I can see private fire brigades are an addition to the public service and are usually contracted by the government.
 
What would you class as poverty and also as abject poverty in the UK?

I'd just be defining abject poverty as poverty for starters.. they need the focus and funds first.. and that should be based on family size and income, and that amount should not be some arbitrary percentage of the median household income, it should be commensurate with what a family of a given size needs to get by with food, clothing, shelter etc but not have much spending money/frivolous items.. in some areas it's going to be more, in some less. we should have nobody in this category and every effort made to ensure everyone is above this.

We can define a new term for those that we want to class as just getting by but their quality of life might be lower, so sure, set that based on a percentage of median, but don't class it as poverty.

Something along those lines.. I hate watching people at the food bank grab the food, throw it in the car, then head off to Tesco for booze/fags..
 
I hate watching people at the food bank grab the food, throw it in the car, then head off to Tesco for booze/fags..

In all honesty, food banks are being abused and not used in the manner they were set up for. This abuse should not be used to determine what is poverty and what is not i.e. use of a food bank does not equal poverty.
 
Source on this? From what I can see private fire brigades are an addition to the public service and are usually contracted by the government.

In the rural areas there are private firefighters that operate independently as a business.
 

In the rural areas there are private firefighters that operate independently as a business.

Your source kind differs as to what you previously said:

In most if the US fire brigade is essentially private and you have to pay insurance to have coverage. They can literally watch your house burn down if you haven't been paying insurance. Or they will battle the fire and then bankrupt you with fees

From your source:

Private Fire Departments

Although there are far fewer of them than there are municipal fire departments, private fire departments do exist across the United States. It’s estimated that their numbers are only hundreds, which is roughly four percent of all firefighters in the country.
 
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