Milo/UC Berkley protestors stop 'hate speech' by using violence and hate...

dowie · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:00

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38837142

Maajid Nawaz sums it up pretty well:

https://www.facebook.com/LBC/videos/10154722077296558/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED

I don't understand the motivation of some of these people - they're supposed to be standing up for the 'oppressed' and fighting 'hate speech' yet this individual was happy to assault a woman with mace

and of course beat other random people:

*swearing*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW0KilFqrJQ

I don't get it, sure Milo is a bit annoying and can be a troll at times but these reactions are just so over the top - he and his supporters/followers really are seen as a threat by the SJW types to the point where they're now reacting violently to try and stop him from even giving a speech.

[FnG]magnolia · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:03

Surprise as self-proclaimed ubertroll meets with opposition to his inflammatory views. More at eleven, back to you Ted in the studio.

maddog · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:03

pretty sure you can't say SJW on this forum anymore people start crying.
should edit that bit.

dowie · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:07

maddog said:
pretty sure you can't say SJW on this forum

it isn't an insult nor aimed at anyone here?* Plenty of people who oppose Milo (especially those who would protest him) are self proclaimed 'social justice warriors'

not that I support him myself mind, my views are more in line with those of Maajid Nawaz's who seems pretty frustrated with both the 'Alt right' and the 'Ctrl Left'

*edit - have posted a question in forum content discussion aimed at this thread so I guess we'll find out

Efour · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:14

I think it's great.

If people believe strongly in something they should be active, aggressive and violent. I love a good protest, riot, smug rub in someone's face, as much as the next man.

indeed both sides are idiots, but the idiot that shouts loudest gets the oil. Something like that.

im a firm believer in Violence 'ultimately' solves everything

maddog · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:14

[FnG]magnolia;30465019 said:
Surprise as self-proclaimed ubertroll meets with opposition to his inflammatory views. More at eleven, back to you Ted in the studio.

They were hitting women with flag poles. yay for tolerant liberals

dowie · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:17

they're hardly liberals, the West Coast of the US has a regular 'black bloc' rent a mob group more like the far left idiots we get in the UK/Europe - they don't tend to like liberals much either

[FnG]magnolia · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:25

maddog said:
They were hitting women with flag poles. yay for tolerant liberals

At least one of these words doesn't mean what you think it means.

I don't condone violence but I dislike Milo as a person and as a proponent of far right ideology. His freedom of speech does not provide him freedom from consequence which I suppose he found out.

dowie · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:31

[FnG]magnolia;30465113 said:
At least one of these words doesn't mean what you think it means.

I don't condone violence but I dislike Milo as a person and as a proponent of far right ideology.

I'm not much of a Milo fan but I'd say that you classifying him as 'far right' is equally as wrong as Maddog classifying antifa/black bloc protestors as 'liberals'.

maddog · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:34

[FnG]magnolia;30465113 said:
At least one of these words doesn't mean what you think it means.

I don't condone violence but I dislike Milo as a person and as a proponent of far right ideology. His freedom of speech does not provide him freedom from consequence which I suppose he found out.

he's not exactly far right.
he's right on some things wrong on others.
he will just carry on, it's of no consequence to him only the people who want to hear both sides and make their own minds up.

markonius · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:34

Huge shock as people who claim they are tolerant react with intolerance and violence towards someone with a different opinion. Why am I not surprised?

Efour · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:38

The tolerant ones probably are very tolerant.
Smugly saying the same rhetoric doesn't change anything. Time for action, they are getting media time and publicity.

markonius · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:42

Efour said:
The tolerant ones probably are very tolerant.
Smugly saying the same rhetoric doesn't change anything. Time for action, they are getting media time and publicity.

It's just that most of the time I see someone make a big deal of how tolerant they are, probe a little deeper and it turns out that this only applies if you agree with them. If you dare object, or have a different opinion to them, that tolerance goes right out the window.

dowie · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:45

Efour said:
The tolerant ones probably are very tolerant.
Smugly saying the same rhetoric doesn't change anything. Time for action, they are getting media time and publicity.

So is Milo though, he's getting plenty of coverage - interviews on Fox News... he was going to address a few hundred students and now he gets more airtime to address millions

scorza · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:46

Efour · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:49

dowie said:
So is Milo though, he's getting plenty of coverage - interviews on Fox News... he was going to address a few hundred students and now he gets more airtime to address millions

Yeah but that's like preaching to the converted.

Longbow · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:53

Efour said:
The tolerant ones probably are very tolerant.
Smugly saying the same rhetoric doesn't change anything. Time for action, they are getting media time and publicity.

Change what exactly? Prevent someone from speaking at an event? These people are the far left, they aren't tolerant and they aren't liberal.

Malevolence · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:55

What do we want? Democracy
When do we want it? Only when we agree with the outcome.

Yaayuh! · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:57

Absolutely horrific and abhorrent. Why can't people just turn their phones 90 degrees and film in landscape?!

StriderX · 2 Feb 2017 at 20:58

Hopefully Trump can finally add Antifa and Black bloc to the terror lists and get this over with.

It's painful to watch someone ruin their own message, i mean the students simply allowed their own campus to get destroyed... just to stop someone speaking?