minimum working temperature?

"These temperatures may not, however, ensure reasonable comfort, depending on other factors such as air movement and relative humidity" -> Sounds like a candidate to me too tbh. They waved a little thermometer-ma-bob thing around in each room that took readings. Think this took humidity not sure.

Also, try and define confortable temperature to me.. when one person in the room has a desk fan on and another has a jumper and hat on?

Other than that'll it'll be guesswork until I find out. (or someone walks in here)
 
jp_bl_68 said:
Done and done, according to the OP. Layers don't make much of a difference if you aren't keeping active.
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it is an active job, that's why according to that government bumpf it needs to be below 13 for me/the night shift, i couldn't stand to be on checkouts at the moment, i'd be frozen in place!
 
vincent1989 said:
it is an active job, that's why according to that government bumpf it needs to be below 13 for me/the night shift, i couldn't stand to be on checkouts at the moment, i'd be frozen in place!
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I used to work outside, 8pm-6am, in the snow, and for the first 4/5 hours I was standing still doing nothing.
 
Here's some thing you may find constructive. Save it and post it in 6 months time:

Ok, I'm not a wuss (the heat doesn't normally bother me, I've been out in shorts and tee in the sun in previous years, windows open 365 days a year unless receiving death threats from family members etc) but after finishing a ten hours shift with sweaty dripping from me and throbbing feet I'm getting pretty angry and the rest of the shift is in agreement with me; it's to ****ing hot!

The airconditioning either doesn't work properly or they're only switching it on for certain areas (management offices) or certain times of day and the nightshift are being left without airconditioning whatsoever, added to this we have no access to the stock room so can't grab extra fans/iced drinks/flip flops/fresh clothes as we see fit and it's like getting blood from a stone trying to get personnel to leave the keys for the nightshift manager.

Now I've done a little research and found that there is (or was) a maximum working temperature (26 or 23 degrees depending on indoor environment) BUT the union have said that the government changed the act to 'a temperature agreed upon by the workplace and the union. Going to Usdaws website and searching around leads me to the same government document aforementioned and from what i can see from the HSE.gov.uk website the same applies (26 or 23 depending on conditions).

So, what do I do now? My workplace is already in breach of the regulations by not providing adequate provision for staff to check the temperature (no thermometers in the building what so ever) which I have informed them about and from what I can find out we're being misinformed about the minimum temperature (or according to them; the lack of one).

I'm planning to take my thermometer in tomorrow night and take a reading and record it (along with readings from the following two nights) but I'm not prepared to spend all that time in what was an oven but I can't afford to not go in.

what i really want to know is are we being fed disinformation regarding the temperature to keep us quiet or not?

In before 'take ome clothes off', most of the nightshift (including myself) are already wearing only a t shirt and socks as well as shorts and trainers that we'd not normally wear.
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Ignoring the trolling....


Just goes to show how bad the UK laws are regarding the workplace.

Biohazard said:
If you think about it it makes sense, we have hot and cold countries all within the EU. Sense to a point...
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How does it make sense? Your still going to get hypothermia no matter what country you're in.
 
whitecrook said:
I'm failing to see what his problem is other than it's 'too cold'
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:rolleyes:

"The heating either doesn't work properly or they're only switching it on for certain areas (management offices) or certain times of day and the nightshift are being left without heating whatsoever, added to this we have no access to the stock room so can't grab extra gloves/hats/scarves/jumpers as we see fit and it's like getting blood from a stone trying to get personnel to leave the keys for the nightshift manager."

He's trying to address that.

I don't know who or what his employer, workplace and culture is like, neither do you. They have just as much responsibility for the confort of their staff on both shifts, he has to argue with them about the condition or timing of heating as such.

He asked for help advice, not for snotty comments from weegie morons like you.
 
Energize said:
How does it make sense? Your still going to get hypothermia no matter what country you're in.
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You have a blanket 'temperature' for a region (europe) that spans from Finland and Sweden all the way down to gib/Spain, Malta Cyprus etc.

It would be impossible to have anything other than pointlessly wide open variations to factor in massive differences in climate.

I thought that was the obvious, perhaps I’m wrong.
 
Biohazard said:
You have a blanket 'temperature' for a region (europe) that spans from Finland and Sweden all the way down to gib/Spain, Malta Cyprus etc.

It would be impossible to have anything other than pointlessly wide open variations to factor in massive differences in climate.

I thought that was the obvious, perhaps I’m wrong.
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which is why it worked better when countries decided their own legislation :(:rolleyes:
 
If that legislation holds then surely the fact that your wearing extra clothes breaches the statement that it should not be needed.
 
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