Mister FPGA

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Picked up a mister FPGA system today, i gotta say im seriously impressed with it.

Ive dug out my old 25" CRT TV and things are playing just as they used to, after years of thinking regular emulation and mini consoles its a real cut above.

Im looking forward to the upcoming Playstation core, any other mister fans in here?
 
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yep had one for a few years now since 32MB ram was the norm! Now its 128MB for NeoGeo.
Its good stuff. PS core is at least a year away id suspect, whilst progress has been quick recently its always the last 10% of development that takes the longest with cores.
 
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Good timing for this thread, ordered the board and add-ons very late Thursday, where the final bits arrived last night. I've only had a very quick play as my 128GB mSD card I planned to use no longer seems to be working.

I set up a small mSD card and what I have played with has really impressed me. Hopefully I get to spend some proper time with this over the next few days. Fairly simple to setup using the Mr Fusion method.

More and more people seem to be talking about MiSTer so even though it was pricey and feel like now is the right time to jump in.

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Im completely in love with it! Been playing a lot of snes and commodore 64 so far. Thats a nice case, ive got a coloured one Timber but i might switch it up.

Yes, it is special for sure. It's been years since I owned a real SNES or MD but you can tell the difference straight away versus emulation. For example, watching subtle slowdown in Sonic The Hedgehog. So far I've only tried a few SNES and MD games but it is impressive. The thing I notice most is the sound and how accurate and lively it is.

I've learned you need to manually save settings each time in the cores. The UI overall is very simple albeit functional. I can see me losing hours on this setting up my own Amiga HD file etc.

The case is a simple push fit held in by the screws on top and bottom. Nice printing on each port and logo and room for all the ports (including the audio input for tapes). Although one of my 3D printed buttons is 'off blue' colour but I could emailed the site if I wanted to. All my add-ons came from that well known UK MisterFPGA site. I know there are official aluminium cases but I quite liked this one.
 
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Really tempted by this, but can't give up crt shaders in regular emulation.
Wish I'd kept my Sony pvm crt monitor now, would have been perfect for MISTer
 
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One pic on lg one on the dell, If there’s a specific game you want to see or different scan line modes, that’s 25%

Thanks for the photos.
Some of the scanlines are misaligned so I'm guessing you're not using integer scaling?
Does the Mister allow custom aspect ratios?
Is it possible to set the thickness of the scanlines to change depending on the brightness of the pixels similar to a real CRT?
Thanks again
 
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I can see me losing hours on this setting up my own Amiga HD file etc.

Oh, that could be tempting!

I was quite keen on that company that made FPGA versions of the megadrive that took the original cartridges, have got a bunch of old Amiga games one of these might be quite neat.

I did get the NES and SNES mini consoles and they were fun, a while back I got a pack of megadrive games for the PS3, I don't know if it was just me being a bit naff compared to my youth but I actually found Golden Axe quite awkward on the PS3 emulated version, might well have been down to lag.

Would be quite neat to try a hardware based solution rather than software emulation at least anyway.
 
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Good timing for this thread, ordered the board and add-ons very late Thursday, where the final bits arrived last night. I've only had a very quick play as my 128GB mSD card I planned to use no longer seems to be working.

I set up a small mSD card and what I have played with has really impressed me. Hopefully I get to spend some proper time with this over the next few days. Fairly simple to setup using the Mr Fusion method.

More and more people seem to be talking about MiSTer so even though it was pricey and feel like now is the right time to jump in.

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I have been thinking about getting a MiSTer for a while now. The only thing putting me off is knowing what parts to get. Where did you get all of your parts?
 
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Oh, that could be tempting!

I was quite keen on that company that made FPGA versions of the megadrive that took the original cartridges, have got a bunch of old Amiga games one of these might be quite neat.

I did get the NES and SNES mini consoles and they were fun, a while back I got a pack of megadrive games for the PS3, I don't know if it was just me being a bit naff compared to my youth but I actually found Golden Axe quite awkward on the PS3 emulated version, might well have been down to lag.

Would be quite neat to try a hardware based solution rather than software emulation at least anyway.

I've had some success with the Amiga, so I need to post back on what I've done and found so far. Just need more time to type something up.

Analogue make beautiful FPGA solutions which if I was a serious collector I'd love to get. Their new PC Engine Duo is lovely.

I have the NES/SNES Mini, Mini MD, PlayStation Classic and PC Engine Mini and have had an immense amount of fun with these. Although the 4 of them were worth the money. The PS Classic was a pretty shoddy in comparison to the others. It needs to have community software installed although I found that a pain because of the current-limit on the USB ports. Although the controllers may come in use for the MiSTer when the PS1 core hits.

I have been thinking about getting a MiSTer for a while now. The only thing putting me off is knowing what parts to get. Where did you get all of your parts?

There are some good guides out there, although I'll try and have a stab at this question. I spend c.£330 on everything in that picture but you don't need to. It depends what you want to do and how quickly you want to be up and running.

Must have:
  • Terasic Nano DE-10. I got mine direct from a large US-based electronics company, £122 with all fees and delivery - ordered Thursday midnight - turned up on the Monday! I couldn't find anyone in the UK with them on their own.
  • UK power supply £20 - £27 (if you don't already have the mains cable) as the Nano board only comes with a US power supply. You may be able to use the supplied US wall-wart, but I didn't want to take the risk.
  • Fan & Heatsink, £13 - you don't need this if you run the Analog IO board on top of MiSTer, but either way you must run cooling of some kind.
  • USB hub - as the DE-10 only has one USB port. Ideally powered if you are plugging lots of stuff in.
  • Micro SD card. There is a 8GB one with the Nano which has it's system software (nothing to do with MiSTer) but I left this alone.
Semi-optional but really not:
  • SD-RAM module 32MB (£20) or 128MB (£53). How much you need depends on the cores you run. The DE-10 on it's own will run some cores (i.e. PC Engine) but most popular cores require 32MB (inc. MD, SNES, Amiga etc.) 128MB module for Neo Geo and some of the new 'non-official' Arcade Cores.
  • MiSTer inline power switch, £4ish
So at minimum you could build a MiSTer for around around £186-£200 if you just took the basic options mentioned above. The extras I added were a Analog IO board (VGA/Optical out & buttons for menu navigation), USB hub, Case, WiFi adaptor and Copper heatsink. But these could always be added at a later date. There are other optional add-ons for using original controllers etc. but I didn't need/want these atm.

The UK based site I went to and is highly recommended is misterfpga.co.uk. I'm sure they will help with any questions as they are a one-person setup. They also have some good guides on their site too.

There are people selling complete setups but I wasn't happy with the price/sites so steered clear.

Hope that helps.
 
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Thanks Timber, suddenly looking at the website isn't so daunting. It's good to know what's require as a bare bones set up and the additional add-ons.

I wasn't entirely sure which IO board was required, I would assume the newer one but I wasn't sure about cases, USB hub and some of the other add-ons (RTC for example).

I'll be looking to pick up parts over time, I am interested in the NES and Arcade cores for now. I am hoping the PSX core will happen, I have been keeping an eye on it for a while and it looks promising.
 
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I've had some success with the Amiga, so I need to post back on what I've done and found so far. Just need more time to type something up.

Analogue make beautiful FPGA solutions which if I was a serious collector I'd love to get. Their new PC Engine Duo is lovely.

Yeah their wooden NeoGeo looked awesome, quite fancy a NeoGeo simply because it was the console that everyone talked about as a kid but no one I knew actually owned one, it was some mythical thing... quite neat that they designed it to accept the old arcade cartridges rather than the home console ones as the arcade ones are apparently cheaper to buy these days (presume the reverse was true back in the day and perhaps the reason for different cartridges too).

Not really familiar with the PC Engine or other consoles in that lineup, the nostalgia aspect isn't there for me. I had a Megadrive as a kid and friends had a SNES.

Aside from being able to accept cartridges and being presented in a very nice case is there actually much about the Analogue products that makes them significantly better than the DIY FPGA solutions?
 
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Thanks Timber, suddenly looking at the website isn't so daunting. It's good to know what's require as a bare bones set up and the additional add-ons.

I wasn't entirely sure which IO board was required, I would assume the newer one but I wasn't sure about cases, USB hub and some of the other add-ons (RTC for example).

I'll be looking to pick up parts over time, I am interested in the NES and Arcade cores for now. I am hoping the PSX core will happen, I have been keeping an eye on it for a while and it looks promising.

No worries, I didn't know if the detail level was too much. The RTC is only used by 6 computer cores and even then if an internet connection is present it isn't needed. Although it's a cool option to have.

Most people have the Analog IO board above and USB hub beneath. The Analog IO board is generally loved by the purists as it allows you to use VGA analog output and reduces latency to exactly what the original machines were (with wired, original controllers). Obviously there is lag that introduced with HDMI and USB (particularly wireless bluetooth) but even so it can be kept to a minimum.

Although I haven't tried NES yet, the SNES, MD, PCE, Amiga cores I have tried are excellent. Home formats is where MiSTer currently shines. The Arcade selection is limited to mostly early to mid 80's games. There is a lot of work being done on CPS 1 and 1.5 etc. but even so there are a lot of games (Irem etc.) missing. And whilst I have few problems with the console/computer cores the Arcade ones (particularly the unofficial/alternative) do give me wierd probs. I can't get sound out of my Optical Out on the Arcade games I've tried (fine on HDMI so, might be my setup though). I wouldn't buy it for arcade games.

Aside from being able to accept cartridges and being presented in a very nice case is there actually much about the Analogue products that makes them significantly better than the DIY FPGA solutions?

I think you've probably nailed it; ultimately Analogue make very desirable FPGA machines which work out of the box and have full CS support. Albeit very expensive for non-US buyers now. The Analogue's still have some tricks that MiSTer can't currently do like playing MSU1-modded games on SNES (Saw John Linneman playing Ninja Warriors; MSU1 version on his Super Nt on a DF stream a few weeks ago). Although from a value perspective there is no competition.

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Regarding the Amiga this is where I've got to. I followed this guide: https://youtu.be/mky-JKVu78g to create a Workbench 3.1 with automatic boot selector where I can log straight into games or demos.

I own Amiga Forever 8 but not WB 3.1.4 so used HstWB Installer to install WB 3.1, Better Workbench and Arcade Game Selector. Works very well as a couch friendly setup and has no problems with playing either Amiga or CD32 games. Although for some reason I can't get glow icons to fully work, even in WinUAE. And my 16GB HDF file might have been too large. But after creating it all in WinUAE it was really simple to copy over to the MiSTer which played it first time (just as that Youtubers real Amiga did).

I didn't bother with CoffinOS which some people got to run on MiSTer or install RTG drivers (which can be done too) so my Workbench is very vanilla. I think a Vampire, PiMiga or AmiKit do an easier and better job at getting a more modern networkable Amiga up and running.

I am tempted to get an 8bitdo G Bros Wireless adaptor to be able to use my SNES SN30 2.4G Wireless controller with MiSTer. Which so far seems to mimic Linux in terms of working with any controller I've thrown at it (which I assume is due to the Linux layer MiSTer uses for basic I/O).

A few badly lit pictures of it with my Amiga creation.

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I picked up one a few months ago and have been impressed with it.
Currently waiting on some cables to hook it up to a crt.

If anyone wants to jump in you can build up slowly.
Just get a de10 nano and a uk plug adapter (The power adapter accepts 240v input) and you can use the following cores -

SDRAM-free cores
Arcade
486 PC
Apogee
Apple II+
Aquarius
Atari 2600
BBC Micro
ColecoVision
Commodore 16
Commodore PET
Commodore
VIC-20
Jupiter Ace
MultiComp
Sega Genesis/Mega Drive
Sharp MZ
Specialist MX
TI 99/4A
TurboGrafx-16/PC Engine/SuperGrafx
Vectrex
Vector 06C
ZX81

Then you can add more ram in the future to use the other cores.
 
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